Do you think ABU baitcasting reel is fine tuned like Daiwa and Shimano? I found that ABU Elite IB is using dual brake system. New system to me. But I didn’t try it yet. This reel is light and small but do you think this reel compete with Daiwa Alpha or Shimano Aldebaran, in term of finese?
Some 1 said this reel got a strong drag. It is fine like Alpha and strong like Zillion. Izzit true?
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comes back to wot, where and how you wanna fish, bro …
getting good, light, strong, ergonomic gear is fine … but getting that which is suited for wot you wanna do is even better
you aiming to cast light or micro lures, exclusively?
or use the BC for some bait/bottom fishing at times/night?
wot’s your priority? weight? comfort? distance? drag? little or no maintenance (problems)? durability?
if you want light and finesse, the daiwa pixy might be your cup of tea.
aggreed with acheong.
if u wanna budget reel but gest in finesse fishing,better get the liberto pixy.
its specially design for cast micro lure.
as far as im using it,it is better than alphas n revo premier when im using 2-3gr lures.
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I’m looking for a reel which is able to cast a good distance using the 6-11 gram lure.With a 4 to 8 kg drag.
So which reel you think is capable to achieve stated requirement?
Thank you
u should be looking for finesse reels if u are looking to cast 2-3g lures, like atiqul mentioned above.
but 6g lure? u definitely dun need a finesse reel, bro.
dun have to think about pixy then.
5-6g lures practically any modern baitcaster of average quality can cast those pretty well, just a matter of refinement.
i also dun think an alphas suits u, since u looking for a high 4kg drag. alphas drag is rated at a little over 2kg at the most.
regarding the elite ib, i haven’t tested it out yet. but was just speaking to an acquaintance just yesterday, and he told me that the ib gives really really long casts. i was shocked to hear that he can spool his reel on a cast when he cast a 9cm skitter pop with a hornet. that’s a full spool of 30lb braid!
dunno if it’s really true, but i would love to see it for myself. he seems like he had no reason to lie, so… hehe.
what’s your budget like anyway?
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get shimano ceanan if budget is a problem, rated at rm220 and below with all the shimano advantages! basically the same thing as scorpion 1001xt and i did cast 3-4 grams lure without issue with it. For larger bait, ofcos better lah
Drag? scorpion can achiew 4.5kg drag. I dun think ceanan will be any worst, or else just invest on rm30 carbontex to bring the drag higher.
Anyway y would somebody use 8lb drag for??? I dont think zillion can do tat, plus most normal casting rod couldnt even stand your 4kg(9lb±) drag u preset.
Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you
Some Abu reel can tune,just add bearing inside the spool tension cap… im using Abu 2500C…
A tackle shop owner told me that he know how to modify the daiwa reel to increase drag power. He said he can replace the ori drag system with the carbonex or matrix (something like that) to increase drag power. Can we modify the spool to increase the cast distance?
I’m looking forward for the review on Abu Elite IB at any of the tackle review site. Hope to know more on this reel b4 decide on which reel to buy. Some angler give a very good review on Zillion. They said Zillion is a little bit heavy but it can achieve good distance for lures > than 6 gram and hav a very strong drag.
While Elite IB is using Dual brake system which is a new tech to me. Not sure if dual brake system can compete with Daiwa magnatic V or not? It outclassed Zillion in many aspects such as the bearing nos, weight, drag and handle. But still many ppl prefer Daiwa, maybe coz of it Q.C and the history.
modified spool never heard yet bro,but u can change to a light weight spool or other tuning parts..
and bear in mind the extra upgrade spool u getting can buy u another reel… hahhahaha
Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you
that true bro…
I have been using the stock daiwa zillion for about almost 4 years now and still going strong. So far there is no need to change the drag (touch wood), its already about 8lb+ drag out of the box. If you have a spot that needs more drag than that, you gotta be my friend and tag me along for your trips [:p].
Btw i dont recommend that you simply upgrade your drag above crazy amounts if your reel is not made for it.. especially if you’re using braids exclusively (due to zero stretch of braids). So constantly abusing the reel in high drags with thick braids it will not just damage your spool shaft it will also damage your line guide pawl + worm gear.
You can upgrade your spool bearing to abec7 ceramic hybrid bearings if you want to. But i dont recommend doing it if you have not done any reel work before with proper tools. If you lose the c clip at the spool or dent the spool when removing the old bearings you’re so gonna cry and regret[:(].. Alternatively keep the stock bearings and just service the bearings with some low viscority lubrication and you can already see improved performance. Lubrication like quantum’s hot sauce is very low in viscority and gives optimum results but you will need to constantly re-lube them after several trips.
Casting wise anything above 6 grams no problem lah.. more bearings doesnt mean its gonna cast till it will spool out all your line![:D]
Have not used revo-ib but have a friend just bought it. So far from my observations, casting distance quite on par lah, and it has zero handle back play, zillion has a little backplay same as alpha too. Just a small thing and doesnt affect your fishing but many people would expect zero backplay when you pay for a premium reel. Overall its quite low profile and has 2 brake system. Which i think imo is not necessary.. But i guess it works in a way that it will help when you cast at low spool speed/trajectory like pitching, 1 of the brakes will activate and when you cast high speed for distance the other system will activate. Only add in more variables to adjust which makes it troublesome if you constantly change lures with different weights.
Just my 2 cents.[:)]
May I know what is zero backplay? haha
Revo IB its quite low profile, is true. Can palm well but the handle is quite thick.
Abu technology and quality are improving.
Backplay refers to the anti-reverse of the handle whether its instant or a little loose. Alot of high end reels also have a slight 1-2mm backplay. Doesn’t effect the performance of the reel.
Having a reel with small backplay is more than just a feel good thing - but it will come at a price.
Precision design and machining, good materials, and good components like precision bearings, all genuinely add to the cost.
If you find something really cheap, with small backplay, pass up the offer until somebody else tries it our first. Quite possible that it will all get loose after a few whacks.[xx(]
Do anyone used Tica baitcasting reel b4? I have tried Tica Caiman(centrifugal brake), Sculptor(magnetic) and Tactical(centrifugal) b4.
All of them easy to get birdnest when cast against wind. Can I said it brake system is not advance as others high end reel? Or may be my setting is incorrect. I have the seahawk bass 103 , but it performed quite well in casting lure against wind (I mean heavy lure only).
Tica caiman (Round type) is quite solid and can cast far with heavy lures. The only drawback is the bihun goreng problem. Nv face this problem for Abu and daiwa reels so far.
Well, here is my take on reels. I must mention before I continue that I’m with Pure Fishing but I am an angler above all. Being an angler I’ve used Shimanos, Daiwas, and of course Abu Garcias. They are all world famous brands and they are all good reels. Each also have their weaknesses and strengths. Each focuses on different things.
Lets just take them as cars. If you want a car that is not too loud (without mods), can go fast, and gives you a luxurious feel. What car would you buy? Perhaps a BMW? Can we equate Shimano to BMW? Expensive, smooth, can go fast, luxurious, and looks good. However repairs can be expensive, engine is made to perform but do not have the pull of the muscle cars, ABS allows you to steer to avoid an accident but takes longer to stop.
Daiwa would be like the Lexus… powerful engine, looks quite good (certain models), Luxurious feel (but not as nice as the above German make), but considered a class below the Germans, ABS brakes like the above, and cost a lot of money.
Abu Garcia BC reels (except the Revo Elite IB) would be like the Ford Mustang… A muscle car. Powerful engine, goes fast, looks very much depends on whether one likes it or not, high performance disc brakes, maintenance is lower (unlike the Mustang), Price not too high, but engine is not as smooth since pistons and parts are bigger, Not much of a luxurious feel, and some really love it due to its heritage and some don’t because it is less “Bling.”
The Revo Elite IB is refined and I would class it Audi (to me in the world of cars Audi ranks above the Mercs and Beemers). I love Audis and I love the Revo Elite IB. Audis are luxurious, powerful, fast, refined. The Revo Elite IB is light, cast like a charm, comes with dual brake system especially if you’re into finesse as you can really fine tune the reel. Me like. But unlike the Audi it is not that expensive.
So which would you buy??? Why not all three. But whether or not you decide to buy a Revo Elite IB… Go give it a try.
Fish & Fish yet catch & release.
love your analogy, Phil … [:D]
lurrrve the daiwas for their all metal models … i’d consider the daiwas as audis
shimanos are too sensitive for me … lightness and smoothness undeniable … like a beemer, any small thing (especially electricals) [xx(]! [:D]
ABUs … hmmm … reminds me of volvos … rugged, reliable, not as refined but serves the purpose … thankfully these don’t drink like the cars … [:p]
hhmmmm, getting a bit poisoned bout the Elite … [B)]
Wau. I would like to give Revo IB a try.