quote:Originally posted by fish4fun As for me, I too have many knives including ka-bars, Benchmade, Spyderco, Puma, Buck and many other brands. I used to keep and admire them until one day I decided that I should be using them instead of just collecting them. I find it such a waste if I were to just keep them and not use them :-). I believe my knives are there to serve me and not the other way round :-). Anyone else has the same thoughts as me in not only collecting them but also use them to their fullest potential?
Bro F4f, post some pictures of your collections la.
Samo, thanks to you for poisoning everybody and making us go broke. BTW I use all my knives whenever the one is need to use. I am not a collector of things just for collection. I use and abuse it and appreciate more just like my ‘older than you’ Puma. But I do care for them too and keep them well maintained.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
quote:Originally posted by fish4fun As for me, I too have many knives including ka-bars, Benchmade, Spyderco, Puma, Buck and many other brands. I used to keep and admire them until one day I decided that I should be using them instead of just collecting them. I find it such a waste if I were to just keep them and not use them :-). I believe my knives are there to serve me and not the other way round :-). Anyone else has the same thoughts as me in not only collecting them but also use them to their fullest potential?
Bro F4f, post some pictures of your collections la.
Samo, thanks to you for poisoning everybody and making us go broke. BTW I use all my knives whenever the one is need to use. I am not a collector of things just for collection. I use and abuse it and appreciate more just like my ‘older than you’ Puma. But I do care for them too and keep them well maintained.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
Ey.. Mana ada poison?? You show yours, I show mine lah.. [:o)][:D][:o)] Towkay CEO like you where can go broke? If you are one of those guys with a bundle of crisp RM100 notes in your pocket who tells everyone that you are broke, then susah mahu cakap lah…
Way I see it: What’s important in sustaining a hobby - is not to let the hobby control you. i.e. impulsive buying where you end up with heaps of junk you don’t need. A good knife user knows which knife suites him the best and if you put your life on a blade in the field, you wouldn’t want to place it on a RM20 knock-off.
To sum it up: Its okay to be broke as long as you are happy..
quote:Originally posted by fish4fun Innerzen, your Bill Moran's concealed is actually a fighting knife if I am not mistaken. Do you hunt bro? Coz most of your fixed blade knives here are primary hunting knives.
Bro F4F,
I wouldn’t “fight” with Bill Moran given a choice. By the design I would use it more like a outdoor kitchen knife. I like to collect some fixed blade because I was brought up going in to Malaysian jungle since young. My father was rubber estate/oil palm contractor for all the Kuai Lows estates and RRI in his hay days. We used to clear Forest to convert to plantations. So hunting and using knives is my childhood thing.
Using fixed blade in Jungle or just our normal river fishin is more convenient. You try both (fixed n folders) in those situation and you will know.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
Yup Innerzen, you are right! I’m a fixed blade junkie too. Folding knives are too much bother in the jungle: too many holes and crevices to collect sand and mud!
The Spyderco Moran is one of my favourites. In fact, I liked it so much I bought two! The quick-release sheath is great and a safety factor when you are bouncing over rapids in a coracle or Scanoe! And the VG-10 blade keeps its sharpness (I only re-sharpened it after 2 years). Falling in the river is no prob: the blade wont rust.
Since then, I have also bought a ‘better’ Spyderco (aiya, what’s d name of that model…), also with TechLok sheath. Now, my Morans are relegated to ‘kebun’ duty.
Now, I’m working on fixing three other fixed blades with the TechLok sheath: a Puma drop point with antler handle scales; a Mustad fishing knife with ergonomic black plastic handle, and a ‘killer’ Joker 440 steel knife with faux cocobolo handle[:p]. A certain “blade doctor” is doing it for me, ahem.
Latest buy is a Spyderco Forager, to serve as a stainless steel parang. I have not brought it for a spin yet, though. Innerzen, how did yours perform?
Better yet, I will show them to you for a touch and feel the next time we meet. Dont have as many as some of you just about 15 pcs only - fixed blades and folders.
quote:Originally posted by innerzen
quote:Originally posted by fish4fun As for me, I too have many knives including ka-bars, Benchmade, Spyderco, Puma, Buck and many other brands. I used to keep and admire them until one day I decided that I should be using them instead of just collecting them. I find it such a waste if I were to just keep them and not use them :-). I believe my knives are there to serve me and not the other way round :-). Anyone else has the same thoughts as me in not only collecting them but also use them to their fullest potential?
Bro F4f, post some pictures of your collections la.
Samo, thanks to you for poisoning everybody and making us go broke. BTW I use all my knives whenever the one is need to use. I am not a collector of things just for collection. I use and abuse it and appreciate more just like my ‘older than you’ Puma. But I do care for them too and keep them well maintained.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
Bro, great to know you grow up in the outdoors too. It is understandable then of your love for fishing and the great outdoors like many of us [:)].
quote:Originally posted by innerzen
quote:Originally posted by fish4fun Innerzen, your Bill Moran's concealed is actually a fighting knife if I am not mistaken. Do you hunt bro? Coz most of your fixed blade knives here are primary hunting knives.
Bro F4F,
I wouldn’t “fight” with Bill Moran given a choice. By the design I would use it more like a outdoor kitchen knife. I like to collect some fixed blade because I was brought up going in to Malaysian jungle since young. My father was rubber estate/oil palm contractor for all the Kuai Lows estates and RRI in his hay days. We used to clear Forest to convert to plantations. So hunting and using knives is my childhood thing.
Using fixed blade in Jungle or just our normal river fishin is more convenient. You try both (fixed n folders) in those situation and you will know.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
My best fixed blade was and still is the Nimravus ATS-34 by Benchmade that I used for my hunting trips.
I used to carry a KaBar Camp Knife with 1095 steel for my camping trips until one day a wise guy 4x4 camper friend of mine started to clear the campsite with his cheap parang while I could only look on. I did not have the heart to use my Ka-Bar to clear the grasses and in the process chop into some stones. That was when I realised that for all the best in knives that we have, it cannot beat the humble cheapo parangs and knives that we abuse around. Now, I’d carry the cheap parang for large and rough jobs, a quality folder on me for backup and a Victoronox multi-tool in my harversack for unforseen emergencies. The fixed blade is added when on extended trips into the jungle esp on hunting trips.[:D]. Call it ‘kiasu’ or whatever but it is the only opportunity that I have to make sure I use my knives[:D][:D][:D]
Net, many of us have a pretty good collection of knives but in my case, I seem to only use a few favourite pieces all the time when I am out on field trips[:D]. Wonder if that is the same with most of you?
quote:Originally posted by JungleBum Yup Innerzen, you are right! I'm a fixed blade junkie too. Folding knives are too much bother in the jungle: too many holes and crevices to collect sand and mud!
The Spyderco Moran is one of my favourites. In fact, I liked it so much I bought two! The quick-release sheath is great and a safety factor when you are bouncing over rapids in a coracle or Scanoe! And the VG-10 blade keeps its sharpness (I only re-sharpened it after 2 years). Falling in the river is no prob: the blade wont rust.
Since then, I have also bought a ‘better’ Spyderco (aiya, what’s d name of that model…), also with TechLok sheath. Now, my Morans are relegated to ‘kebun’ duty.
Now, I’m working on fixing three other fixed blades with the TechLok sheath: a Puma drop point with antler handle scales; a Mustad fishing knife with ergonomic black plastic handle, and a ‘killer’ Joker 440 steel knife with faux cocobolo handle[:p]. A certain “blade doctor” is doing it for me, ahem.
Latest buy is a Spyderco Forager, to serve as a stainless steel parang. I have not brought it for a spin yet, though. Innerzen, how did yours perform?
quote:Originally posted by JungleBum Yup Innerzen, you are right! I'm a fixed blade junkie too. Folding knives are too much bother in the jungle: too many holes and crevices to collect sand and mud!
The Spyderco Moran is one of my favourites. In fact, I liked it so much I bought two! The quick-release sheath is great and a safety factor when you are bouncing over rapids in a coracle or Scanoe! And the VG-10 blade keeps its sharpness (I only re-sharpened it after 2 years). Falling in the river is no prob: the blade wont rust.
Since then, I have also bought a ‘better’ Spyderco (aiya, what’s d name of that model…), also with TechLok sheath. Now, my Morans are relegated to ‘kebun’ duty.
Now, I’m working on fixing three other fixed blades with the TechLok sheath: a Puma drop point with antler handle scales; a Mustad fishing knife with ergonomic black plastic handle, and a ‘killer’ Joker 440 steel knife with faux cocobolo handle[:p]. A certain “blade doctor” is doing it for me, ahem.
Latest buy is a Spyderco Forager, to serve as a stainless steel parang. I have not brought it for a spin yet, though. Innerzen, how did yours perform?
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Hi JB, ha, so you have got the Forager, I bought the Forester. Now I got two Forester, a Subaru Forester and a Spyderco Forester..[:D]. Only thing is I don’t have a forest to go to haha.
Ya this Jerry Holsom knives is a real tough looking thing, I did some cutting and it slice through the meat (flesh) like paper. Yet to use it in an outing, it is a bit heavy though.
I admit I have more than enough to last me a life time of usage so I better as from now resist buying some more knife..[8D]
Ya Kenny , At the end of the day our Malaysian parang is still the King of our Jungle. I am still in search of a really good parang where the weight, blade design, balance, steel material all balance nicely. That will be my perfect parang that I will cherish.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
Realy, you dont have to kid yourself, cos you WILL buy more![}:)] It never ends lah!
A local parang is great, if only it doesn’t rust. Thus it need TLC and constantly too. I have about 20 parangs, ranging from nondescript el-cheapos to collectors’ items like “Chop Tukul” and the Batu Kikir blades. Most of them have become permanent occupiers of the knife closet. For jungle trekking trips, I usually find myself carrying a short, light parang I bought from Kuala Kangsar.
The heavier numbers will only follow me on trips where the boat takes you right up to base camp! I guess that wud include the Forager too! Really, for jungle fishing trips, you only need a small parang to cut a few branches and saplings, that’s it.
I have another group of blades: the parang panjang. These blades are for real work at my farm: still lots of secondary jungle to play in! The usual parangs with curved plastic handles are used. But recently, I bought one from this smith in Kangar, for a princely price of RM70. Wow, what heavenly steel! Everytime it slices thru a sapling, there’s this high-pitched ring to it. I must have cut over 100 saplings, and it’s still sharp.
F4F
Agree with you on our collection knives, most of us only use our favourite piece. The rest is just for show only or toys to us.
Innerzen
Subaru Forester is a good SUV…but unfortunately we only have concrete forest…[:p] and I use my spyderco to open keropok wrapper for my son..[:D]
Realy, you dont have to kid yourself, cos you WILL buy more![}:)] It never ends lah!
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Fully agree with you on this bro JungleBum. The shorter ones are better in that they are easier to carry at the side and will give you less problems when you are sitting down. I don’t carry the big long ones anymore unless I can drive right up the fishing location and where I can keep the long parangs in the car. Also I will carry the long parang in areas when I want to deter others from robbing me. Generally, like what JB has said, most of my trips do not require the ‘heavy’ blades[:D] BTW, I bought my favourite short parang from Kuala Kangsar as well but it has a chop of an ‘eye’ on it</font id=“blue”>
The heavier numbers will only follow me on trips where the boat takes you right up to base camp! I guess that wud include the Forager too! Really, for jungle fishing trips, you only need a small parang to cut a few branches and saplings, that’s it.
I have another group of blades: the parang panjang. These blades are for real work at my farm: still lots of secondary jungle to play in! The usual parangs with curved plastic handles are used. But recently, I bought one from this smith in Kangar, for a princely price of RM70. Wow, what heavenly steel! Everytime it slices thru a sapling, there’s this high-pitched ring to it. I must have cut over 100 saplings, and it’s still sharp.
Talking about sharp knives that doesnt or are not easily rusted, one brand of knife that I have fits this bill. The brand is ‘Hi-Cut’ - a fixed blade knife with 4.5 inches of cutting edge. I bought it from the late David Chee at his Fook Soon shop many years ago. Sharp as a razor, retains a good edge and have been well abused yet retains a very sharp edge. One of my all time favorite skinning knife. Suprising it is the only stainless-steel knife that I know that holds an edge well and is easy to sharpen. I can’t seem to find this brand anywhere else now. Must have had it for the last 20+ years.
Not only knives bro, he was also a great outdoor man. I used to go wild boar hunting with him and a few others and I bought my first cross-bow from him[:D]. Yes, those were exciting days![:D]
quote:Originally posted by samo The late David Chee was a purveyor of fine knives. He used to stock the eye brand knives from Solingen, Germany.
btw just remembered that i got this knife from wang kelian for 50 baht and the sharpness is almost the same with the price. so how can i make it sharp??
Bro, what material is your knife made of? It will give an idea of its edge retention as well as how difficult it will be to sharpen it. However, I guess that if you have got it for 50 baht (5 ringgit?), it would probably be stainless steel material and will be a little difficult to sharpen or it will not retain its sharpness (edge) well - but I could be wrong.
The knife does look good and mean though and I would use it for rough use[:)] and not expect it to give me the sharpness nor the edge retention capabilities. A good looking collection nevertheless.
quote:Originally posted by mbax wah so many poison from u guys kenot tahan alrd...
btw just remembered that i got this knife from wang kelian for 50 baht and the sharpness is almost the same with the price. so how can i make it sharp??
stainless steel maybe.. i also have no idea bro. this one is intended to be for allround usage when i go fishing, just that it is hard to cut bait fillet.. so it will be good if can make it little bit sharper[:D]..
Hmmmmm, if you intend to use it for rough use and you want to sharpen it quickly, my suggestion is to take it to a knife smith or go to one of those flatted factories that has an electric sharpener for metal works and pay them a few dollars to sharpen your knife. Since you are using your knife for rough use and your knife costs only a few ringgit, you may not be too concern about the temper of your blade which will be affected by using an electric sharpener. But this is the safest, easiest and quickest way to sharpen your knife.
It is however, NOT advisable to sharpen good quality knives with an electric sharpener as it will affect your knife’s delicate tempering resulting in its edge holding quality.
quote:Originally posted by mbax stainless steel maybe.. i also have no idea bro. this one is intended to be for allround usage when i go fishing, just that it is hard to cut bait fillet.. so it will be good if can make it little bit sharper[:D]..
BTW bro Mbax, although you are using this knife for all-round fishing purposes, it would be better if you could get even a cheap utility kitchen knife or if you able, get a fillet knife, to get your bait fillets. It is much easier and quicker. Looking at the blade of your combat knife here,it is a little thick for easy filleting. Save this combat knife for other tasks other than filleting.
quote:Originally posted by mbax wah so many poison from u guys kenot tahan alrd...
btw just remembered that i got this knife from wang kelian for 50 baht and the sharpness is almost the same with the price. so how can i make it sharp??
Just my 2 cents, I think this knife is of not good material. Also the design although look fierce but totally impractical both for funtional use or even for defence. A good knife needs not be expensive, I saw some Brazillian made knife in a fishing shop selling about Rm 40+ and it was good knives. Go get one.
Youth is a work of Nature but living old is a work of Art.
