ohoi there…
can softies (soft plastic) be D.I.Y?
if can, could anyone share their knowledge to this thread
and show all of us how to make softies step by step
#softies are very good with haruan, thats why i really want to learn how to diy softies
Thats all
Thanks
ezy_dude29@yahoo.com.my 
Can but the problem is getting plastisol (the raw material for making softies) in M’sia cheap enough to make it viable. Anyone knows where to get reasonably priced plastisol in Malaysia?
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Fun 2 Fish, Fish 4 Fun
I know he sells it, because he tried to sell me some. But if any of his other prices are to go by, you’ll need a thick wallet.
He is a really nice guy and very helpful. If he does not have something, he is prepared to order it for you. The store is awesome, I could have spent all day in there.
Here is a link to his web site: http://www.multifilla.com/
I could link you to another lure building web site, but not sure it is allowed, or LP would have already done it.
It was you guys that put me on to Multifiller, so thanks.
Dave
is the price there reasonable? or anything cheap that i shud focus on for making crankbait?
Mutu takde tak apa… asal ada gaya cukup… ikan takde tak apa… janji ada member dapat…mesti pinjam untuk cam-whoring later
Go ahead with the links Vodka. As long as links are for knowledge and sharing information wise, we do not forbid it. I didn’t put up the link because the no. 1 criteria on getting raw material is the biggest obstacle.
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it was mixed with some other ingredients to make it harder so to withstand the casting. maybe we can come out with our own recipe? bring it to you fishing trip, if the fish don’t bite, just consume it yourself [:p]
hahahaha… it was 10 yrs ago and i wasn’t paying attention to it either because i thought it was some silly idea. wish i can get the recipe back n try it out
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http://pmppfishing.org
Yeapwl, you should try hard to get the information. Biodegradable lures is a big issue at the moment, this site could lead the way!
As long as you can throw it without it disintergrating and as long as it is soft enough to allow the water to push it around, then it is very do-able. The rest is casting technique, that part is very easy (after an innitial learning curve) and very cheap. As LP stated above, it is all about the material. You find something suitable and we’ll take it from there.
Dave
I have just found a source of Konjaq flour, which is what is used to make konnyaku gel. He quoted me $6(US) for a Kg, so the price is right, a Kg should make about 50+ 4" swimbaits.
I will do some test mixes to see how it works and report back.
Dave
wont konyaku jelly break after throw into the water? or you plan to make a harder jelly?
Mutu takde tak apa… asal ada gaya cukup… ikan takde tak apa… janji ada member dapat…mesti pinjam untuk cam-whoring later
Konnyaku jelly does not dissolve in water. The formation of the jelly is non-reversable, in other words it will not re-melt, so buying konnyaku jelly is pointless. You have to buy the konjac powder, dissolve in water, boil, then add calcium hydroxide, which promotes the jelly process.
I am picking up the powder today, but my problem is sourcing the calcium hydroxide. Its household name is pickling lime, but I have not found it locally yet. I found an industrial source, but the minimum order was 1000Kg. I will keep looking.
Dave
cheers vodkaman,
hope you will success…once finalize… please share with us the procedure and take some shoots for us to see…
Mutu takde tak apa… asal ada gaya cukup… ikan takde tak apa… janji ada member dapat…mesti pinjam untuk cam-whoring later
hmmm… so u managed to find the recipe? i was searching on yahoo.co.jp, found some site on using the “konnyaku-lure” but non was documenting how to make it.
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This making Konnyaku from konjac flour is an ‘old school’ thing and very few people do it in the modern world.
From my web searches, they talk about using egg shells (somehow). But research tells me that egg shells are calcium carbonate (CaCO3). This can be converted to calcium oxide (CaO), by heating to 825 deg C, this burns off the carbon dioxide (CO2) CaCO3 - CO2 = CaO.
Water is then added to the calcium oxide and results in our target of calcium hydroxide, CaO + H2O = Ca(OH)2.
This temperature (825C) seems very high and difficult to achieve, but I cannot find any information on the egg shell method. As it is old school, I thought maybe one of you has a grandma that used the method and they could contribute to the discussion.
Sorry for getting technical, just the way I do things.
Dave
quote:
Originally posted by Vodkaman
This making Konnyaku from konjac flour is an 'old school' thing and very few people do it in the modern world.From my web searches, they talk about using egg shells (somehow). But research tells me that egg shells are calcium carbonate (CaCO3). This can be converted to calcium oxide (CaO), by heating to 825 deg C, this burns off the carbon dioxide (CO2) CaCO3 - CO2 = CaO.
Water is then added to the calcium oxide and results in our target of calcium hydroxide, CaO + H2O = Ca(OH)2.
This temperature (825C) seems very high and difficult to achieve, but I cannot find any information on the egg shell method. As it is old school, I thought maybe one of you has a grandma that used the method and they could contribute to the discussion.
Sorry for getting technical, just the way I do things.
Dave
wow… u guys,
very good information
bro Vodkaman,
ur post look like that ur chemistry teacher
matapelajaran yang saya sangat lemah[xx(]
but i really2 hope that your recipe would succeed
and im sure that other people are waiting for the result
keep it up[;)]
ezy_dude29@yahoo.com.my
cEZter, thanks, but I am no chemistry teacher. It is the result of a bit of googling the web. I do remember enough from school chemistry class to understand it though, even though it was 40 years ago.
The solution may lie in building materials as a source, as lime is used. But I would really like to follow up on the egg shell thing, as I would like to try out the Konnyaku as a food too, seeing as I know possess 2Kg of the knojac powder. Chewing on something bought from a builders yard does not appeal to me.
I still have high hopes that something could come of this project. I hope someone can help me with the egg shell thing.
Dave
bro Vodkaman,
about da egg shell thing,
how about if you blend da shell untill it turn to powder
then, i think maybe it will be easier the egg shell to mix with other mixture
ezy_dude29@yahoo.com.my
bro Vodkaman,
about da egg shell thing,
how about if you blend da shell untill it turn to powder
then, i think maybe it will be easier the egg shell to mix with other mixture
ezy_dude29@yahoo.com.my
When I get the eggshells, I plan to boil to dissinfect. Then ground to powder. But this then requires heating to 825 deg C to convert from calcium carbonate to calcium oxide.
With the help of my wife, I managed to buy some stuff from the builders yard that I believe is the calcium oxide or slaked lime. I added water and it mostly dissolved, which is what my research claimed. I need to get hold of some litmus paper, to test the alcalinity.
I did a test run with the konjac powder, but failed to get a jell. I tried varying the amount of the lime water, but still no success. As I am trying things out, I am documenting everything, so I will be able to give precise instructions of what works and what doesn’t. In fact, I might post the entire document, as it might help.
What I have discovered so far, is that pouring is not going to be possible, due to the porridge type consistency of the konjac/water boiled mix. However, it will be possible to inject or use a vacuum technique to get the mix into the mold. I have experience with the vacuum method, as I recently developed a technique. Also lots of recent posts on injectors too, so I do not anticipate any problems.
The second discovery is that the jell is unlikely to be clear. The color is a muddy medium brown. This means that only solid colors will be achievable, using food colorants. My wife is going to arrange for someone to collect a bag of eggshells for me, just incase this builders stuff is not the right component.
This is obviously going to take some time to fully test, but a start has been made. I will report back when I have more.
Dave
Congratualations Vodka. Last I heard it was only GF.
When I have time I’ll talk to my food industry friend about konjac solidifier. here are a few other ingredients that are used with konjac. I have the info stashed somewhere due to preservative concern that is needed to keep konjac lures for longer than a week I left the project off.
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