What type of fly for these species : Kelah, Tengas, sebarau and other exotic fresh water/mountainous stream fishes in Malaysia??? If possible attach some sample photos.
Sam McFly
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Hi Bro NF,
Based upon my shallow experiences with these kind of waters, I should say using charlies & gotcha flies would be proper. A small clouser would also be useful. These would be fine for hunting species like the tengas, sebarau & kelah.
But I’ve been also getting good response using nymph; particularly stone nymph & beadhead nymph, even when being stripped fast. Small fishes like sikang, tengas daun, bagoh & tebal sisik have been known to chump on these flies.
For dry flies, they’re the best weapon for surface feeders like kelisa & kaloi. Any dry fly that imitates winged ants, black ants, hopper & crickets are notorious for this purpose.
As of recently, I also found out small-sized spoonfly is also effective in targetting these clear-water species.
Good luck! [;)]
Thanks for the info, Bro Riki. But what about the color…what color is preferred??or is it depend of the condition of water…fast current, milky water or cristal clear water etc..
Sam McFly
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Originally posted by Novice Flyer
Thanks for the info, Bro Riki. But what about the color....what color is preferred??or is it depend of the condition of water....fast current, milky water or cristal clear water etc..
Colour-wise, everything muct be as close as the natural baitfish there. So excavation might be needed beforehand… [;)]
Black, brown & whitish might be good for dries & nymphs. As for wets; silver, gold & white would do just fine… [;)]
Good Day,
I agree for the most part with Riki Rahman. I did a little fishing in Penninsular Malaysia when I lived in S’pore a few years back. As far as stream fishing goes I would look toward the nymphs too. Shades of brown and or olive for nymphs. Size 12 down to maybe 16 hooks too. But I think one of the best things Riki Rahman mentioned was to take some samples next time. Turn over a few rocks and look at what bugs there are, Look at sticks and logs in the water too. Also, when nymph fishing you may wish to use a strike indicator (in other words a very samll fly fishing bobber) to help detect strikes or a big indicator dry fly with the nymph trailing behind it. As far as streamers are concerned, I think I would keep them no bigger than a size 6 2x long streamer hook. Again, think to match the color of the surroundings (river bottom) Like a pearl underbelly with either a tan/brown or olive top to the streamer. I prefer to use a material called Ice Dub or Ice Wing for these type of streamers. Very reflective and shiny with great color!
Christopher
wow …thanks for ur post ,nice fly you make it im try to tie some fly bait but dont know can fish anot [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]
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Originally posted by simonking
wow ...thanks for ur post ,nice fly you make it im try to tie some fly bait but dont know can fish anot [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]
hi simonking.. it doesn’t matter whether the fish makan your fly or not… I scared after you got the hang of tying flies… you’ll spend more time tying flies than fishing… [:D]
Good Day,
Yuo might be onto something there fisheR! At least we have winter here where I live so many lakes and streams get covered with ice… that makes for good fly tying time… hehe.
Christopher
Christopher and fisheR,
That’s one of the upside of fly fishing. Weather and time permits we can go fishing. If not sit at the bench and start tying. I’ve probably have more time at the bench than fishing now at least hahaha[:D]
Pellet_Fly
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Originally posted by fisheRquote:
Originally posted by simonking
wow ...thanks for ur post ,nice fly you make it im try to tie some fly bait but dont know can fish anot [:p][:p][:p][:p][:p]hi simonking.. it doesn’t matter whether the fish makan your fly or not… I scared after you got the hang of tying flies… you’ll spend more time tying flies than fishing… [:D]
[:D][:D]now i like to buy more then tie my self by the way i will tie , but not now loh i saw you guys tie specialy chris fly like a real bugs , mr chris do u sell ur fly ? if got can u sell me some[:D][:D] even my wife say ur fly so so real [:0]
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Good Day,
Simonking - pm me your address please.
Christopher
hi,
Mr christopher , i nice to see your reply what fish u most fly ?
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Good Day,
Simonking - interesting question. Let me give you a little background on where I live as that is determinate of what I mostly fish for. I live in Grand Rapids, Michigan, U.S.A. Grand Rapids is located in west central Michigan. Michigan is the state that looks like a mitten on the map, surrounded by the Great Lakes. We also experience all four seasons. Summer can be as warm and humid as Malaysia, where as winter can be quite artic with several feet of snow, frozen rivers and lakes. So we get a little of all kinds of weather. With this said, so too will the species available to us be effected by our climate. So… fly flingers around here have a good smorgasbord to work with depending on weather conditions. “Warm” weather fish include carp, bluegill (panfish in general), large mouth bass, small mouth bass, walleye, pike, and the like. In Autumn the runs of anadromuos fish begin with coho and king salmon as well as brown trout, lake trout and the highly regarded steelhead. Althogh some steelhead begin showing up in the fall, their prime spawning months are March and April. Some of us die hard fly fisher’s brave the cold witner months in search of steelhead that are moving up river to spawn. While doing so we may also catch a trout or two. Speaking of trout - the general season for trout opens the last Saturday in April and last until September 30th. Although, there are a few rivers and lakes open all year to the taking of trout. We have brown trout, rainbow trout/steelhead, and brook trout which is not a trout at all, but really a char.
Not to dodge your question, but I like them all! Each has a certain unique quality to each species that makes them all special. From small, yet very tasty, bluegill that think they are bigger than a horse yet gullible. To discerning brown trout that have become wary and wise. The the brute strength of a salmon or carp. The majestic leaping ability of the steelhead is something to be seen. Or the royal and gorgeous colors of a brook trout getting ready to spawn. I can’t say no to any of them!
Christopher
hi, chris
sound great your country is great fisherman must get season license only can fishing , have time to let young fish to growing biger , also what license fish what kine of fish , in malaysia is not say bad but some fisherman very weird small like 2inch baby fish also bring back , i go some pond 5years ago is quite good result ,but now go to the same pond result is very poor also found many small saiz fish body lying every were , im not say bad about malaysia just some fishing buddy is quite not responsibility at fishing sport , Malaysia still got lots of good fisher man and fishing spot ,but some fishing spot if car or motorcycle can easyly reach one i will feel no intrested , some time also seen some MXXXX man use net to catch fish place net whole pond , sometime we fishing at that spot they also dont care still place net infront , license for fishing needed in malaysia do u think ? PROTECT THE BABY FISH , PROTECT OUR PONDS ,TO HAVE A NICE FISHING TRIP IN FUTURE , MAH ~ ~ ~
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Need some advice…for Tarpon in brackish water, what color of fly (preferably crazy charlie) is suitable when fishing in the late afternoon or evening???
Sam McFly
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Good Day,
Novice - Pearl/White, Chartruese, White/Red. Those worked for me in Singapore.
Simon - Same thing happens around the globe. There are people who are not satisfied until they take everything! Sad really. Treat nature like a buffet, take what you need, not what you want.
Christopher
chris
yah . . . by the way i train my fly casting at swimming pool also , getting better result for me ofcours because just only my self who casting there , if stand with you guys must be like L lisence driver , red/white work at sea or fresh , i know rapala got one kine of bait is quite popular for trolling and casting , red head and white body ,i think is same meaning right ? i meat many back packer in malaysia , finland ,LA , canada , they all fly fishing buddy some time they send me their fly photo ,is nice to knowing them and u too chris hope see u in Malaysia malaysia flyer will bring u to tualang for nice fighting fish .
cheer
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Originally posted by Novice Flyer
What type of fly for these species : Kelah, Tengas, sebarau and other exotic fresh water/mountainous stream fishes in Malaysia??? If possible attach some sample photos.Sam McFly
“Everybody can fly…catch, release and keep the environment clean”
I heard this one is a Sebarau ‘killer’… [:)]
and it has been effective for the past 7 generations of Sebaraus…
so I have heard lah.. [:D]
fisheR
Good Day,
I would agree, that shoudl catch a few fish.
Christopher
I heard this one is a Sebarau ‘killer’… [:)]
and it has been effective for the past 7 generations of Sebaraus…
so I have heard lah.. [:D]
fisheR
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Hi fisherR
Good of you to post pic of this fly which by the way is Nick Ooi’s of TackleBox creation. However, in the fly fishing world of ettiqute, one should always, out of respect, include the name of the fly and/or the person who created it when posting pics. For example the Dahlberg Driver Fly, no matter how you tie the driver fly it’s still called the Dahlberg Driver Fly, same goes for Lefty’s Deceiver. There’s more than 30 tarpon flies created to date by different people; Charlies has more than 10. The fist Charlie invented is the Crazy Charlie.
I introduced Nick’s split tail fly in Rod & Line February 2007 issue and named it TACKLEBOX SPLIT TAIL FLY. The only thing I modified was the body below the eye. Not only does it hook up sebaraus in freshwater but also toman and pujuk.
I’ll be conducting a fly fishing clinic this Saturday at Tackle Box and will touch a little bit on the Fly Fishing Federation. Hope you can make it and pick up more tips on fly fishing.
Regards
Pak Amin
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