clap! clap! Had me going thru meriam-webter over n over again. Really astonishing reply, complex, clinical and importantly critical. I could need some gramar lessons from u.
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IpohMali,
I thought Singapore Fish already finish, But it change my mind, where I can found many of Giant Fish that had been caught near Singapore Waterfront.
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Hi Firetiger
Interesting to note that there are peeps using same stuff as i am over in Penang! Do tell me more.
Rocky outcrops means small islands that you all have to boat to?
Not too familiar with the color codes for Halco though, how does R7 look like huh?
Would definitely try changing to single hooks next time to reduce the snagging rate. How is the hook-up rate when using singles, are they comparable to trebles? I have not tried them before, but always had this pre-conceived perception that hookup will be lower.hehe
as for nets, not really that many as Singapore not many netters. More like other unknown hard debris that somehow manage to defeat my lure retriever time and again.i think might be more towards those construction concrete thingies with internal steel rods and wires.lol
thanks, glad that you enjoyed the writeup! [:)]
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one of the best responses i’ve ever come across in a while now. very good desciption, paragraphing & points. will take note of this classy response for further reference!
in penang, we’ve dones similar techniques too, but instead of sea walls, we’re doing it on rocky outcrops.
the results are comparable.
the fish sizes are comparable.
and yes, we do keep some nice specimens for consuming too.
lure selection will be of the same make and design as yours. colour choices vary, but i highly suggest trying the R7 in shallow waters
try using single hooks instead of trebles. less sangkut problem.
in your case i would assume that the place u’re fihing in has lotsa old nets on the sea bed. in general, lure retrievers don’t work too well when lures are stuck onto soft objects.
nice short writeup there bro, enjoyed it a lot.
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As a matter of fact, Singapore has much better fish stocks compared to many urbanised spots in malaysia. The reason being that
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Most important is that they do not have that many netters,commercial pukat-ers,jaring-ers,taut-ers, netcasters, trawlers be they commercial o part-timers unlike malaysia, thus the most drastic impact on their fish stock is much less
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They have a very strong catch n release culture amongst the anglers. Most lure anglers here can be classified as true blue C & R anglers who fish purely for the adrenaline, fun and photos. Also, the lure anglers here are very well to do and can definitely buy fish at the market or restaurant for consumption.
Besides that, i suspect alot of anglers here don’t really like the idea of gutting their catch.Or messing up their nice cars/house with slimy fish.lol[:D]
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Originally posted by outdoorshop
IpohMali,I thought Singapore Fish already finish, But it change my mind, where I can found many of Giant Fish that had been caught near Singapore Waterfront.
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Ipohmali bro,
I’m no good in this kinda fishing, as the matter of fact i only done it once and manage a couple of tiny groupers only, so can’t comment much.
But as for ur question bout single hook, i think they have better catch rate, not neccessary hookup rate. I’ve take the initiative of replacing all my lure’s trebles to singles and i think they’re worthwhile. If applyin on these type of fishing, there’s not much to worry about because grouper gulp their prey whole, so i don;t think the hook up rate wil go down. But advantages are much greater then tat…
First, single hook prevent fish from throwing the hook. Means the hook definitely hold better on the fish mouth.
Second, unlike treble which hav many angles causing it to be rather weak compared to single. This prevent broken or straightened hook in a fighting process, u don;t wan to lose a big fish when ur lucky day comes right!
Thirdly, singles have less chances to get snagged. Replacing rm4 worth of hook to each lure to save an entire lure which cost 6-10times more, why not? Less snagging=more fishing time
All of the above really do enhance ur catch rate and reduces a lot of nerve wreacking throw-off and snagging.
Last but not least, single are safer to handle, not only for us but for the fish as well! Imagine a tackle box full of lures with treble, time are wasted trying to remove the lure from the box, reduce fishing time(albeit tiny weakness). But talking about snagging, if they could reduce stucking elsewhere, it means less likely too it will stuck on ur finger, especially when u removing em from a trashing fish! In a fish point of view, if u intend to CnR, the injury done on the fish will be far less than a treble could inflict! And u could remove single quicker than treble, thus more time are spent on fishing…
Hope this helps. Any feedback is greatly appreciated
I’m just a college student and only have 10 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
Hello there Ipoh Mali,
need some advise, how to prevent from your lure stuck during casting in a place full of rock.Even thought u are using single hook as example soft plastics, but every time I tested it, it will stuck in the rock.If u have time, we can go and cast there near SEDILI my village.
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Originally posted by outdoorshop
Hello there Ipoh Mali,need some advise, how to prevent from your lure stuck during casting in a place full of rock.Even thought u are using single hook as example soft plastics, but every time I tested it, it will stuck in the rock.If u have time, we can go and cast there near SEDILI my village.
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The trick is getting your lure in on a slow retrieve and having a mid to slow action rod… this only works on cranks hehehehehe…
Just crank it in on a slow and moderate pace with pauses in between.
The trick to not getting your lure stuck is to just pause when you bump into something.. dont strike.. if it is a fish it will run, then u can chose to strike…
Hope this helps… heheheheh
No pain no gain, dont try dont know… muahahahahaha
Hi Bro TJS
ya, i guess it boils down to the quality of the hook-up whereby single hooks will translate into more landed catches due to a better hookup thou it might not necessarily mean more hook-ups per se.
Also, i was thinking that your point about groupers gobbling the whole thing very very true therefore singles should work just as well as long as my reaction rate is fast enough.hehe.[:I]
thanks for your input!
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Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
Ipohmali bro,I’m no good in this kinda fishing, as the matter of fact i only done it once and manage a couple of tiny groupers only, so can’t comment much.
But as for ur question bout single hook, i think they have better catch rate, not neccessary hookup rate. I’ve take the initiative of replacing all my lure’s trebles to singles and i think they’re worthwhile. If applyin on these type of fishing, there’s not much to worry about because grouper gulp their prey whole, so i don;t think the hook up rate wil go down. But advantages are much greater then tat…
First, single hook prevent fish from throwing the hook. Means the hook definitely hold better on the fish mouth.
Second, unlike treble which hav many angles causing it to be rather weak compared to single. This prevent broken or straightened hook in a fighting process, u don;t wan to lose a big fish when ur lucky day comes right!
Thirdly, singles have less chances to get snagged. Replacing rm4 worth of hook to each lure to save an entire lure which cost 6-10times more, why not? Less snagging=more fishing time
All of the above really do enhance ur catch rate and reduces a lot of nerve wreacking throw-off and snagging.
Last but not least, single are safer to handle, not only for us but for the fish as well! Imagine a tackle box full of lures with treble, time are wasted trying to remove the lure from the box, reduce fishing time(albeit tiny weakness). But talking about snagging, if they could reduce stucking elsewhere, it means less likely too it will stuck on ur finger, especially when u removing em from a trashing fish! In a fish point of view, if u intend to CnR, the injury done on the fish will be far less than a treble could inflict! And u could remove single quicker than treble, thus more time are spent on fishing…
Hope this helps. Any feedback is greatly appreciated
I’m just a college student and only have 10 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
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The trick is getting your lure in on a slow retrieve and having a mid to slow action rod… this only works on cranks hehehehehe…
Just crank it in on a slow and moderate pace with pauses in between.
The trick to not getting your lure stuck is to just pause when you bump into something.. dont strike.. if it is a fish it will run, then u can chose to strike…Hope this helps… heheheheh
No pain no gain, dont try dont know… muahahahahaha
i totally agree..hehe..thou the pausing sometimes takes agessssss if your crank is slow floating type or if your crank lip is already preventing it from floating up again aka already jammed into some crevice btwn rocks.ehehe. main reason i dun like cranking in rocky areas but prefer relatively snag free sea walls [:p]
One trick i learnt is to use BIG FAT cranks with lots of buoyancy and long long lips versus the smaller ones. e.g. the halco’s which also have great action at slow crank speed. These float up much faster, less sangkut but also stay in the strike zone shorter la.. Pros and cons
as for soft placstics, i’ve never used them myself but my friend has had effective usage of a particular storm single hook type shad.its kinda suspending so sinks very slowly due to air ballast inside the body. less sangkut, u might wanna try it out
R7 is the fluoro green colour by halco. works wonders for me & gang over here. somehow i have the perception that malaysian fishes favour chartreuse/green!
rocky outcrops along batu feringghi area are good landscapes for groupers. no need boats, just by the seaside. trick is u gotta knock on groupers door by using cranks. stop when u feel a thump, strike if it moves!
as for single hooks, our boy wonder TJS has given an in-depth approach. very well said there TJS. still boils down to preference & confidence when luring.
grouper will not hesitate to whack a lure almost it’s own size. one of our team members caught a 6 inch grouper while jigging with a 60gm bluefox herring jig!
i’ve also had groupers with a mouthful; that is the lure being stuck horizontally in an open mouth!
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Originally posted by outdoorshop
Hello there Ipoh Mali,need some advise, how to prevent from your lure stuck during casting in a place full of rock.Even thought u are using single hook as example soft plastics, but every time I tested it, it will stuck in the rock.If u have time, we can go and cast there near SEDILI my village.
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Telephone : 03-42924820The trick is getting your lure in on a slow retrieve and having a mid to slow action rod… this only works on cranks hehehehehe…
Just crank it in on a slow and moderate pace with pauses in between.
The trick to not getting your lure stuck is to just pause when you bump into something.. dont strike.. if it is a fish it will run, then u can chose to strike…Hope this helps… heheheheh
No pain no gain, dont try dont know… muahahahahaha
Wahh Bro LS
that mean I need a crank… Normally using softies…
No money to buy a crank… Once stuck…
Nangis looo…
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Originally posted by ipohmali
As a matter of fact, Singapore has much better fish stocks compared to many urbanised spots in malaysia. The reason being that
Most important is that they do not have that many netters,commercial pukat-ers,jaring-ers,taut-ers, netcasters, trawlers be they commercial o part-timers unlike malaysia, thus the most drastic impact on their fish stock is much less
They have a very strong catch n release culture amongst the anglers. Most lure anglers here can be classified as true blue C & R anglers who fish purely for the adrenaline, fun and photos. Also, the lure anglers here are very well to do and can definitely buy fish at the market or restaurant for consumption.
Besides that, i suspect alot of anglers here don’t really like the idea of gutting their catch.Or messing up their nice cars/house with slimy fish.lol[:D]
not quite fully agreed with you here but don’t flame me just my point of view since i had worked in singapore for almost 12 yrs so just share what i know & observed.
not really true about the netter case in actual fact a lot of netter will lower their net down if there is a good productive spot exposed/discussed in the forum or public.
there are a lot of illegal fishing activites in singapore especially in the reservoir areas be it on the legal spot open for public to do recreational sport fishing or illegal spot, you can see most of people used baits or live baits to fish which in fact is prohibited in the reservoirs. bedok reservoir & seletar reservoir are two very good example.
not they don’t like gutting their catch but i should say not able to do that for their catch especially fishing in the illegal spot/place. ever one singaporean friend brought me to one of the reservoir to fish for toman using chicken liver during their national day (less security) we got 5 big toman small one also easily 7kg big one got about 12kg so what do you think for 2 man like us to carry 5 big toman and need to walk in the bush for almost 45 minutes to get to our transport point unless you are macho man like incredible hulk otherwise i think you will choice to release them rather than kill them since you can not bring them home for foods.
Nice catch Bro…
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