Im definitely planning on getting my own kayak for fishing purposes.
I have earmarked Pulau Jerejak and places like Sg Pinang (not the town one :P) that are ripe for this sport, not to mention the many coastal areas that are just out of conventional range.
And since i need to lose some weight, what better way than to drive myself with something that has fishing in mind.
They are made in Thailand licensed from NZ Perception Brand kayaks They are very good and high quality and much cheaper than Q or Ocean Kayaks.
I own both the Apollo and Moken series. Moken is actually the Apollo which is customised for fishing such as having 2 inbuilt rod holders, mounting for fish finders, place specially moulded for equipment storage, rod clips fish keeper area etc.
Wooo..the moken looks great! mind if i ask how much did u get one of these babies for? Shipping costs?
Just Jobe
based on the brief view i had of the prowler & the moken, I think the Moken would be much better.
Reasons:
Moken has a rudder. very important for straight tracking in the water i.e. going straight without zigzagging around in your kayak, esp with sea currents around. not too sure if you are experienced with kayaking, but trust me when i say it aint easy for a beginner to go straight, more so without a rudder! Susah when trying to reach a group of boiling pelagics in shortest time possible..ehehe
Moken seems to have a more pronounced/ sharper stern and bow. again helps when u wanna go straight. canât over emphasize this. the prowler has a gentler, smoother bow n stern. Turns easier. would be great for agility e.g. rivers, or places u would need to turn/ change direction of boat frequently. harder to go straight.
Moken has molded in handles. Prowler seems to be riveted or screwed or sumthing on to boat body. Molded definitely more durable
Anyways, am not a promoter for Moken or anything, just sharing bout one of my loves.heheâŚhave been currently fishing with a sevylor inflatable diveyak at pangkor for squids in calm waters & going to kenyir in a week with it too! gonna try out diveyak + electric motor ..hehe
As for safety issues, very very important to know your tides and currentsâŚIt is very very tiring trying to fight the current esp if you donât paddle frequently and are nt conditioned. E.g. even in a calm bay in pangkor, distance of only about 1-2 km took us much longer when we wanted to go back.. at least 20-30 minutes more than when air mati.
Know your right of way with bigger watercraftâŚalsways give way, always donât expect them to be able to see you.
know how to control your craft of course, would suggest you learn up your forward, reverse strokes, stern rudder, emergency braking, low bracing, sweep stroke for turning in calm waters wihtout waves and current first. can google, quite a number of videos n sites around. Oh most importantly, if capsized what to do. which is why we usually kayak at least in twosâŚneed another boat to upright capsized boat. else haf to drag and swim to shoreâŚheheâŚ
sorry for lenghty post. But had bad experience leading a group of inexperienced kayakers on an expedition which included a storm, 10m visibility , shipping channel with container ships, and a few upturned DOUBLE kayaks + people in the water + injuries. Which is why cant overemphasise safety!!!
Looks like you are talking out of experience.[:)] Useful view on kayak fishing. I am a kayak angler too, but not as experience as you lah! [:)] I am using a Seaeagle Inflatable 330, light and great protabalibity. I mainly use it for lure casting in estuary and shallow reef casting.
Like you said safety is a big issue in Kayak fishing, life jacket is a must have safety features. One thing i learn from kayak fishing is get waterproof bags, waterproof casing for your camera, handphone and other important electronic gadjets. When it rains you are totally vulnerable to get soaking wet! [:D] I learn it from the hard way ahahah[:p]
quote:Originally posted by Tembaring Ipohmali bro,
Looks like you are talking out of experience.[:)] Useful view on kayak fishing. I am a kayak angler too, but not as experience as you lah! [:)] I am using a Seaeagle Inflatable 330, light and great protabalibity. I mainly use it for lure casting in estuary and shallow reef casting.
Like you said safety is a big issue in Kayak fishing, life jacket is a must have safety features. One thing i learn from kayak fishing is get waterproof bags, waterproof casing for your camera, handphone and other important electronic gadjets. When it rains you are totally vulnerable to get soaking wet! [:D] I learn it from the hard way ahahah[:p]
Just my two cents
Cheers
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Yes, I also learned it the hard way when fishing with them last yearâŚwaterproof bags are essential and not using those crummy plastic bags! Sitting on a boat with a wet underwear sucks.
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Nola, not tt experienced in kayak fishing. But would say that i am pretty well versed with kayaking by itself, hence the more technical aspects on boat design, etc. In terms of true functionality of getting from point ato point b, closed decks esp the tourers n all are mucho better than open decks due to their body design. But not tt suitable for fishos like us la. One plus point about closed decks is u can use ur knees to help you control the boat and its more possible to upright if you capsize even if alone. but thats another story by itself..hehe
Yup, totally agree with you about the portability of inflatables!! we bring it by ferry right to the beach in Pangkor before launching to the small island/bay about 1-2km away. One thing about inflatables is the risk of punctures, especially when we are luring, sotonging, etc!! haha, have to be extra careful with hooks n stuff. Always fear having to swim back one day with my box of lures in one hand and the fishing rod in another..hehehe
heheâŚdry bags are another essential too get the good quality thick plastic ones for your valuables, esp wallet, camera, etc. [:D]
Woo, thanks for the tips!
Really happy with the advice here.
IpoMali,
Dont worry about long postsâŚevery tip/advice is gobbled up with much enthusiasm!
-About kayaking, i wont say im super good or anything, but i can manage in our coastal waters ok.
-Tides and currents, im pretty ok with as wellâŚi have been cought in a fight with the current before, and definitely am not looking forward to that again, so ill plan my trips in well.
My plans include coastal areas and especially rivermouth spots for starters, and i dont think ill go out fishing with much gear till im at least a month into getting comfy with any new vessel.
I seriously agree about the safety concern. I am looking into an outrigger for more stability, any advice on this?
Did consider the inflatableâŚbut knowing me⌠>_< ill be swimming sooner than you think, kekeke.
Once im confident in the yak, ill definitely be in for a major learning curve with equipment in tow
âŚlooking forward to it!
Guys, thanks again! i would still love to here as much tips and advice as possible from you guys!
Nothing beats experience!
Peace!
-e-
Fishing - Its not always about catching a fish, you know?
-The Ed-
http://fishojobe.blogspot.com/
Oh, btwâŚjust saw the queries on $
âŚi was quoted about RM2.5k on the Moken (from KL), and almost twice that for the Prowler with rudder system (Singapore).
What do you guys think about those prices?..advice?
I am still looking for more info and offers, but for sure im looking to close this and pick one up at mid/end June when im down in KL
Fishing - Its not always about catching a fish, you know?
-The Ed-
http://fishojobe.blogspot.com/
Youâre more than welcome. More than glad to share the lil i know and would love to hear from your side too once you get that yak of yours!!! hehe. Stories of your coastal n estuary exploits will be much appreciated in the near future[:D]
As for outriggers, really sorry but donât have any experience with them nor actually seen one locally or in Singapore for that fact. You mean the stabiliser thingies which makes your yak into a catamaran-like craft right?
i Think one of those âoutriggersâ will definitely help in stabilising alot but ainât sure if they come as readily available add-ons. Guess the dealer will be most appropriate in answering your queries bout this.
RM 2.5K sounds pretty reasonable to me as compared to double tt. If 5K ill rather get meself a scanoe or sumthing d with a thruster[:p].hehehe But does it have ruddering system included?
IMHO, important thing in selecting your model is whether it has all the options you need coming with in or available as add on to that model. e.g. outriggers,ruddering systems, etc. Cause if you can add-on easily later when you need the customisations n upgradesâŚsusah lerr.
Iâm also thinking of getting a hardbody kayak sometime in the future. But now stuck mostly in singapore, so no point getting one to collect dust kat ipoh.[xx(] Do keep us updated which one you decided on finally!
Stream Dancer - hands-free kayak fishing
an electric powered fishing kayak controlled solely by your feet that operates
in 6 inches of water without harming fragile underwater environments.
Go for SOTs designed for fishing. They are usually very stable and have ample storage (for all your tackles and catches). Some even come standard with rod holders and fishfinders. The SOTs are so stable that you can even stand up and do fly fishing. So, you donât really need an outrigger. I would recommend an outrigger if you are considering kayak sailing. Remember, our great Polynesian forefathers sailed as far away as New Zealand and Hawaii on their simple dugout outrigger sailing canoes.
Agree, SOTs have been recomended from most sources.
No thrusters, but with rudder system etc. To be honest the price is close to 2.6k, but stillâŚsame ballpark.
As for thrusters, if ever i get one, its gonna be specifically for trawling/control while fightingâŚi dont want to lose the âexcerciseâ aspect of my motivation, heheheâŚcos bloody hell i need it >_<
So far, in terms of outriggers, there are none that come made for the moken, but found some info on getting them online(pricey!) but not in malaysia. Ill test the yak for stability before deciding on an outrigger too. may not be necessary altogether after all
âŚmight even decide to try making DIY outrigger if need be
-e-
Fishing - Its not always about catching a fish, you know?
-The Ed-
http://fishojobe.blogspot.com/
For those who are interested to take fishing one step higher without burning a hole in your pockets, try kayak fishing. Here are 10 reasons why
Sneak Up To Your Target
Paddle close to your targets without scaring them away. The stealthy nature of kayak fishing is a key reason for its popularity the USA and Australia today. So, donât wait for the fish to come to you, go after them and with a Fishfinder, you can even track them down.
Go âYakaboutâ
Yakabout just anywhere. Anywhere there is a body of water. For example, ponds, lakes, rivers, estuaries, mangroves, reefs, bays, harbours, shores, and the more open ocean. A kayak allows access to areas of mangrove and shallow water that are inaccessible to larger and more expensive boats.
Have Yak Will Travel
You can load up your kayak onto your car top and go just about anywhere. If you have a 4WD, you can even go further (off-road). You can get very close and launch right where the fish are. Canât do this with larger and more expensive boats.
Virtually Unsinkable & Indestructible
The polyethylene material used in the construction of the kayak is not only durable but also positively buoyant, making it an ideal material for kayak making. With minimum care, a kayak can last you a lifetime.
Very Low Maintenance
No expensive maintenance or repairs. Just hose down your kayak each time after use. No dry rots, blisters, peeled gelcoats or cracked hulls to worry about. No waxing or expensive engine repairs.
Everyone Can âYakâ
Easy (to learn) and affordable. This is probably the single biggest reason why kayaking is so popular. Thanks to the roto-moulding technology and the durability of Polyethylene plastic, kayaks are not only affordable but more choices are available. Kayaker can choose a kayak that fits his or her intended use, budget and even colour.
Eco-friendly & Active Lifestyle
No smelly fossil fuel, no engine noise, no pollution. If you want to see nature close up without scaring your targets away or leaving a trail of environmental destructions, kayaking is the best option for you. If youâre an active person, you can appreciate the workout.
The Kayak Fishing Experience
For the thrill seekers, the experience of being towed around by a big fish is the great experience of kayak fishing. You get drag around or you can chase down a big fish once hooked. You canât enjoy this experience in a typical charter type fishing trip. If you are into trolling, Simply outfit your kayak with rod holders. Paddle and enjoy the surroundings. For the noodle arms, you can mount an electric trolling motor. Youâll know a big fish hits when your feel a âtremorâ. Or simply, drift and fish or stand up and fly fish. You will also frequently encounter man-o-war jellyfish, flying-fish, dolphins, turtles and other marine life while kayaking in the sea.
The Seafarer Wannabe
The ancient Polynesian seafarers crossed the vast oceans, reaching as far as New Zealand and Hawaii, simply by rigging one or more lateral support floats, known as outriggers, and a sail to their dugout canoes. The outrigger gives greater stability and seaworthiness and the sail harness the energy of the wind, giving the Polynesians a superb versatile ocean going craft. If you are a seafarer wannabe, simply add an outrigger and a sail to your kayak and you can reminiscent the seafaring days of the Malay Archipelago.
The Yak Fully Loaded
If you have to have your electronic gears, you can mount them all on your kayaks. Some kayaks have purpose built console for mounting electronic gears such as fishfinder, GPS, iPod, camera and cell phone. Get to your destination, locate your fish, mark your fishing hole, listening to your favourite songs, take a picture, call your love ones, all these while sipping a refreshing cold drink from the comfort of your kayak.
I need as much options as possible!!
get the good quality thick plastic ones for your valuables, esp wallet, camera, etc. [:D]