I am just lucky to own a pond in Bentong, now looking for Pacu or Peacock Bass to release into my pond, anybody know any supplier of Pacu, especially the bigger ones…? Many thanks for the help !
looks like bentong and pahang going to be the next place to be plagued with PB disease thanks to you
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
Hi all, just been advised of the danger of Peacock Bass, so PB is off my pond !
Hi Newbies,
Just my 2 cents. Pacu & PBs in the same pond. Underwater World War, unless it is a huge pond. Suggest you consult a marine/fish biologist on what kind of fish to populate your pond & what do you intend to use the pond for. Sam at Red Hot Anglers, Kelana Jaya is a qualified fish biologist, perhaps you can consult him.
Regards,
Hennesy
use to own a few pond in raub, not very far away from bentong…
the water quality quite good for grasscarp. and also ketutu, soon hock, they breed non stop. another would be baung, but baung need a rather flat but decending kinda bottom n they will breed well, from shallow to deep
tilapia okok only as they exhibit stunted growth after a few generation, dunno why. Lampam will breed profusely if the pond size is right with the same bottom as the kind use for baung. As for pacu, a lil harmless if the water source(river, stream etc) is far away… if stream is near then the water should be quite good, if bottom is sand instead of mud, kelah and other riverine fish will feel comfortable
before adding fish suggest u get some local species of seluang(the one with long ‘mouthoche’ and with one black strike all the way from the eye to the tail) n put a few packet, also put a few packet of prawns. let them there for a month or so… then other predatory fish will find themself at home. Haruan will inadvariably be in the pond sooner or later if water source is nearby. Alternatively can add them as well, prolific breeder n surviver.
Sebarau will chomp on those seluang faster than u could think, n they grow real fast if seluang are aplenty, they are somewhat stupider in commercial pond lol, dun ask me y cos i catch the same sebarau over n over again in my pond, how i know, cos i only release 1 sebarau in my pond, everytime i caught it it’ll be so much bigger, until some idiot use net to catch fish(dun ask y my dad’s useless fren) and it’s close to a kilo then, compared to the palm size specimen i caught from a river nearby, in less than a year time
Toman not so recommended even if pond is thriving wit bait fishes, since u gonna end up with fishes losing tail, fins, life etc
put in few terbul if u can get some, these beautiful fish thrive in the water around there very well n breed too! n if big edi dun forget to present one to me, my lone big terbul very lonely in my house pond ma hahaha
n pls, no flower horn and n small agressive chicild type… that’s the stupidiest idea ever to actually release flowerhorn, i dunno who would even think of putting such stupid fish in their pond, stupid as hell. PB is ok one, at first very nice very big, but once depleted of baitfish then ur doom will come, all ur pb will be smaller than palm size n breeding n eating all their youngs and other fishes, very fun meh catching palm size pb???
if bottom is mud, leekoh will tend to like it. but beware of leekoh n tilapia as they will eat up ur pond slope and make ur pond shallower through time, dun believe? try lo
lampam sungai would be nice compared to lampam jawa, just tat they dun grow as big as it’s javanese counterpart(most of the time the jawa variety u buy from fries are injected with hormones thus grow to large size, but their next generation is hopeless). if u wan lampam sungai n u have good ventilation system tat can put a lot of fish inside n travel long distances, dun hessitate to call me up and i can catch hundreds of them for u, u can fish ur self as well these beautiful tinfoil barbs.
so far tat’s all i can think off… sorry gtg go rush to sepayang to fish for the next few days… see ya
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
hi newbies,
please try to stick to indigenous malaysian fish.
please do own research so u can determine which species are native to malaysia, which are not… and most importantly, species that are non-native, but many ppl assume to be native.
It’s his own private pond. Let him stock whatever he wants and enjoys his fishing.
Numerous arguments about the danger of introducing foreign fishes to local waters were brought up recently. Thanks to National Geographic and Discovery. Those “fishzilla” programs really have a great impact
But one thing that is arguable is that whether the non-indigenous species are harmful, neutral or contributory to the waters. Yes, bighead carps and snakehead are harmful to the local USA fishes. But some other species may be neutral or even contributory to the local waters because they are placed low in the food-chain. So IMHO, the rule is not as simple as “when it is non indigenous, it is bad”
Another point is that compared with the ornamental fish market, the number of new species introduced by sports fishing is many times lower. Goldfish, guppy, cichlids, siamese fighting fish are all foreign species. And if you go to the aquarium shops and you could see many unseen species being brought into malaysia every now and then.
According to http://fish.mongabay.com/data/Malaysia.htm, most carps (bighead carp, grasscarp, leekoh) - their status is not established (ie dont know native to malaysia or not). And yes, our popular rohu is part of the family. And patin is classified as “misidentification”. Most paypond are filled with carps and patins. And other species like pacu and plabuk are not native. Looks like to encourage sport fishing of indigenous species, we should boycott all paypond and only head to the jungle rivers for sebarau, kelah, baung, temoleh and tapah [:D]
I think the harm of introducing common foreign fishes (like pacu, PB and carps) has been done for tens of years, and if you stock those species into your private little pond, you would not be the cause of the extinction of Malaysian fishes. Your source is local anyway. But it may be bad if you import those rare foreign species because you never know to what extent they could harm our local fishes.
how big size pacu you need???
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Originally posted by StarTrek
It's his own private pond. Let him stock whatever he wants and enjoys his fishing.
no problem stocking anything, as long as it’s for sure that the fish won’t have any chance whatsoever to escape into other water systems.
Whether foreign or local species, it is always a question of balance in the food chain.
As long as there’s enough and continuous food supply, fish of any species can thrive.
Lampam and Tilapia are good forage for predator type fish. These fish feed on almost anything and breed rapidly, producing sufficient food for predators, but they too must eat to survive.
So, understanding the food chain and its related activity is important to keep a pond well stocked.
Just an example here : If Peacock Bass were to survive, it needs a good supply of live fish in its daily diet. They are voracious and eat a lot, just like sebaraus. Therefore it is only logical to produce food for them by breeding Tilapia and Lampam. In brief, it is a question of food management.
Just as in cattle farming, feed lots are a necessity. Feed lots are just plain grasslands to provide the greens for the cattle.
This argument about the destructive qualities of foreign or local species is purely academic and at times based on emotions rather than practicality.
Haruans, though well loved by anglers and meat hunters are however hated by prawn or other fish breeders, and thus another argument may arise.
Ethically, there is nothing wrong with introduction of foreign or whatever species as long as the basic food chain principles apply.
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Good one Mr D, how enlightening.
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Never meant to start a debate over my pond, anyway, I have a few araipama in my fiber tank now and also few alligator gar.(about 1ft to 3ft size, still thinking whether to release into my pond). My pond size is 50ft x 150ft, I love fishing but I am very mixed on what fish to stock up as this is my first experience so I can enjoy fishing and also the makan. I am thinking of stocking with Tilapia so my son can eat his own catch and get him addicted to what his father is ..haha… But again, I always consider Empurau and Kelah over-priced in the market, so thinking should I rear some Empurau and Kelah from small ? But again, for good fishing, I like the strength of Pacu and also Siakap, so many choices and so got me mixd up on what to put in !
pacu, arapaima n alligator gar so far never seen them reproduce in our local environment before but this is without scientific backing ofcourse
you should try releasing soon hock, easy fish to kept and fish, blardy tasty too if u know what i mean hahaha
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!