I noticed tht the topic Here is all on a specific pond and there are no general discuss place for it.
Can I kick start a discussion here?
Well,for an instant paypond fishes eating pattern does follows those in the wilds?
I mean whenever tides move they will bite more? - I don’t believe tht..I think it’s all depend on the feeding time frm the farm they been raised.
Argued this point with many pond kaki b4.
-And why whenever the tides are the highest( seawater start to flow in) frm the pipes..there will sure be barra near the inflow water?
-and why barra likes udang pasir the most? I am not sure bout other pond in various part of the country but in jb it seems they are barra killer.
I’m neither a Tailou or a sifu but let me put my 2 cents into the pot
I used to fish payponds almost daily back during pre 2006. I’m currently residing in Sydney but i believe several things still hold true to paypond fishing.
Paypond fishes readily bite during cooler temperatures. This holds true especially to concrete ponds. take sealion pond 2 as it is now called for example. I used to fish during the mornings (6-10 or 11 max) and the bite rates during those times are higher. The feeding will stretch on further if there are clouds to suppress the sun. Night time the fishes would start to bite hard around 8pm onwards. This period used to be so successful i used to get on average 6-7 fishes per session. (this could be partly due to the technique i was using as well)
based on your tides theory. Tides usually bring in an inflow of fresh oxigenated water into the ecosystem and im assuming this is when the pond owners like to allow water in as the water is cleaner(less chance of destroying the ponds ecosystem)Naturally the water coming in is higher in oxigen content and also barra’s are ambush predators. Its their nature to lie in wait at choke points(I notice flatsheads an aussie species who are ambush predators also like to hang around rivermouths) smaller fish find it tougher to handle the stronger currents hence making them less mobile which in turn makes it easier for barra to’ambush’ them.
For me I am of the belief that the fish respond to the environment they are in from my experience. If they were to respond to the tides it would be most likely due to the moon phases and so forth. Apparently they are alot more sensitive to the changes in atmospheric pressure(something we are too thick to feel )
I have experience keeping carnivourous fish before, even taking back some barra i catch and chucking them into my home pond before Naturally the fish have their feeding times which they are used to. however they quickly adapt to the new feeding regime after awhile.
Since most of the fishes are released into the pond after being kept in the cage without food for awhile or somethings unloaded straight in.. they need some time to recover from shock and so forth. usually a good 7 8 hours or more.. depending on stress of the journey/how fast they can get used to water salinity/temp and so forth.
That means the fishes caught dont have enough time to get into the ‘new feeding’ regime yet. Hence why the reason of feeding time from farm comes in.
Here’s my 2cents. Pls ignore if you don’t agree. Thanks.
Gave up on Saltwater payponds after spending a small fortune trying to learn the ropes of sea fishing. Since they don’t allow lure fishing, I’ve lost interest. But every now & then, some of my frens & acquaintances still able to pull in some decent fishes, mostly Siakap & Jenahak, from payponds. I’ll share here what they told me works for them.
Baits
(1) Dead Prawn - Peel off the shells, keep only the tail shell, wrap in newspaper & put in the freezer so it hardens into a straight stick shape like live prawn. Hook on the head, cast out & reel back in slowly in light jerking motion.
(2) Live Prawn - Floating T-rig. 2m long 40lb mono leader. One end tie to float, the other end tie to hook/bait. Middle part tie a dropper loop to connect to the main line.
(3) If every angler in the pond or majority are using prawn bait. Switch to Kembong instead.
Behavior
(1) If the operator says TODAY release fish, go only NEXT DAY cause the fish is still in shock & won’t feed until they adapt to the new environment.
(2) Moon phase & tidal charts are meaningless at saltwater payponds. Temperature & positioning of sun plays a part in paypond fishing since fish, like us, humans, prefer to hide from the hot sun too. So morning (6am to 10am) & evening (6pm to 10pm) are best time. Midnight not advisable since temperature is too cold & the fish also sleepy…lazy to feed.
(3) Fish at those areas nearest to the water paddle machines, if they are turned on. Fish seem to be more attracted to highly oxygenated water.
(4) Don’t go during rainy days because water is less salty, hence, less active fish. Bad for anglers too to catch a cold.
Angler - Some pantang-larang that they commented
(1) Avoid smoking. If smoke, quickly wash hands with soap to remove the smell before handling baits. Same goes for minyak angin & any other chemicals in your hands.
(2) If day fishing, don’t sit too close to the fence/rod stand. Stay back or under a roof. Logic is, paypond is not deep so fish can see you which can scare them. Also you might get sun burn.
That’s all. I have not put all these to the test but looking at the photos on their phones, they must know what they are doing.
I sensed my wife and newborn back to kedah last week…
Here’s ma myth pantang…
I and a friend drove all the way from Sg petani to hatyai fr the plabuk @ hatyai fishing sport pond…
So during the way..both of us joke bout how we would react if the pond are close when we reach there…
And guess what..damn..it really close !!!
But never mind…dannok is just 45 min away frm hatyai…Wahaha
I would be careful in de future to call b4 stamping ma passport.
But still I would not talk bout the topic in the future …
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