Penang Flyers ??

xx_3585 · July 13, 2007, 10:23am

Hi fellow flyers,

Been reading the topic for awhile and now I got some armoury 60% (Waiting for my 10wt line), I am checking to see who in penang or surrounding states to share some experiences on saltwater fly fishing.
I am deepsea guy but hoping to cast along the shorelines for starters (maybe later go after the freshwater peacocks), a change from the heavy gears of the deep[:D].

Just pick up a TICA T211R and an unbranded 9ft (I think its a 10) 4-piece prototype rod from Surecatch shop here in Penang. I am fitting a butt end extension to it currently. I am also into doing my own flies - very much a DIY guy when the situation permits [:)].

Well, the butt end is done, looks longer then normal but should give give leverage for any biggies [:p]

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xx_4127 · July 13, 2007, 4:05pm

hi,

i go penang sometime do you know penang got spot that can fly ? if got we meet sometime or not fly also can so seelah

simonking

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xx_3585 · July 13, 2007, 5:21pm

quote:
Originally posted by simonking
hi,
i go penang sometime do you know penang got spot that can fly ? if got we meet sometime or not fly also can so seelah

simonking

www.cellystore.com.my
Your family one stop store!Selling all kind of product range from children, guys and girls items.

Don't know really, but some of the housing development areas in Tanjong Tokong and along the jelutong H/W look good - plenty of back cast room and not many people about.

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xx_4396 · July 15, 2007, 6:54pm

[quote]Originally posted by NexBigKatch

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Just pick up a TICA T211R and an unbranded 9ft (I think its a 10) 4-piece prototype rod from Surecatch shop here in Penang. I am fitting a butt end extension to it currently. .
Well, the butt end is done, looks longer then normal but should give give leverage for any biggies [:p]

Hi NBCatch,
If the biggies you are concerned with then maybe not the butt you must worry. It’s the lifting handle which is fixed approx 2/3 inches up from your current handle between the hook keeper and the first line guide. I would think that your extension may hinder your casting leverage if you are a beginner. Most handle extensions are made detachable, so that you will have a choice when to use it.

For the biggies too, you would need a suitable reel to go with your rod. So will the leader set up, which I am sure you are familiar with the deep sea set up. It’s the same but not similar but any adjustment is not difficult. By the way what size biggies will you be after?

xx_4396 · July 15, 2007, 6:56pm

[quote]Originally posted by NexBigKatch

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Just pick up a TICA T211R and an unbranded 9ft (I think its a 10) 4-piece prototype rod from Surecatch shop here in Penang. I am fitting a butt end extension to it currently. .
Well, the butt end is done, looks longer then normal but should give give leverage for any biggies [:p]

Hi NBCatch,
If the biggies you are concerned with then maybe not the butt you must worry. It’s the lifting handle which is fixed approx 2/3 inches up from your current handle between the hook keeper and the first line guide. I would think that your extension may hinder your casting leverage if you are a beginner. Most handle extensions are made detachable, so that you will have a choice when to use it.

For the biggies too, you would need a suitable reel to go with your rod. So will the leader set up, which I am sure you are familiar with the deep sea set up. It’s the same but not similar but any adjustment is not difficult. By the way what size biggies will you be after?

xx_3585 · July 15, 2007, 9:59pm

Hi bro Irhamy, thanks for the reply, not sure what you mean about the lifting handle - does it mean corking the keeper and the 1st guide or just grabbing that part for extra leverage [:p], if I have a screamer is on line?
The extension can be removed if the need arises. Before the extension its rod end heavy when balanced on the front of the cork handle, with the extension butt it improved and by the time I got 10wt line on, I hope it should balance out even further.
On the cast I don’t expect any cast further then 30-40ft whilst on the boat with frequent windy conditions.
The T211R is 10/11 reel and it will be back with 200yds of 30lb dacron line that I have spare plus a 10wt line. Leader I am building now are 40-30-20lb about 9ft plus 6inch of multi-core un-coated steel wire to the hook end.
Target will be 5-7kgs tenggiris but will they take a fly that is the big question, since the tenggiris around these parts are fairly smart or choosy in what they are after.
It sounds like I am jumping in deep but that is a target during one of my offshore trips, for starters it will be the shorelines to get my cast going.

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xx_4396 · July 16, 2007, 3:09pm

[quote]Originally posted by NexBigKatch

[green]Hi bro Irhamy, thanks for the reply, not sure what you mean about the lifting handle - does it mean corking the keeper and the 1st guide or just grabbing that part for extra leverage [:p],

Sorry, my last posting tak jadi. This is the picture of the lifting handle. It only serves that purpose, but you would have a better grip on your rod for a biggie.

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You may need a fast sinking WF line with it and a good practice, i suppose. Bro, how long have you been fly fishing, may i ask?

xx_3585 · July 16, 2007, 7:32pm

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Originally posted by Irhamy
[quote]Originally posted by NexBigKatch
Hi bro Irhamy, thanks for the reply, not sure what you mean about the lifting handle - does it mean corking the keeper and the 1st guide or just grabbing that part for extra leverage [:p],
Sorry, my last posting tak jadi. This is the picture of the lifting handle. It only serves that purpose, but you would have a better grip on your rod for a biggie.

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You may need a fast sinking WF line with it and a good practice, i suppose. Bro, how long have you been fly fishing, may i ask?

Did you do that extra bit yourself, looks very good and practical too. If I guessed right, its lots of hard work involved to strip off all the guided before putting the extra bit on?

About my fly fishing, just starting again after many years of laid off, but those days as student in UK did some lake fishing - max cast was about 50ft from a 6/7 rod & reel setup. I still have a dozen of the freshwater flies I tied all those years ago - hahaha !

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xx_4396 · July 16, 2007, 10:05pm

I did not do it myself, I bought that rod some years back but i broke it while in Thailand last year.What year were you in England and where? I was there too where i learned my flyfishing. Small world init?

xx_3585 · July 17, 2007, 10:11am

quote:
Originally posted by Irhamy
I did not do it myself, I bought that rod some years back but i broke it while in Thailand last year.What year were you in England and where? I was there too where i learned my flyfishing. Small world init?

Well it seems the breakage has turned into some useful [:)], I was in Newcastle Upon Tyne U in the 1970s, I think maybe its a bit before your time - [:D][:D] Are you from the Northern States ?

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xx_4396 · July 17, 2007, 11:37am

Hi NextBigKatch,

Well, breakage is just part of this angling game. I have a broken 2 premium fly rods within a month of purchase. One was broken about 12 days before my trip to the Maldives this year. But Nick of Tackle Box sent it for repair and got it back on the 10th day.A superb piece of customer service.

1970s was a wee bit a head of my time. I was in NE London Poly in mid 80s. Worked there until 1993. It was the Walthamstow and Hanningfield Resevoirs that did the damage on me as far as flyfishing is concerned. But, Newcastle was very near to some superb lakes. And fairly near to my fave Scottish fishing ground - Loch Ard and Loch Katrine. I wish i could go back there to fish those feisty brown trouts.

I am from Kepala Batas but I work in KL. I travel back to B’worth quite a bit because I have an office there.

Great to know you are still keeping the flies you tied. I still have mine. i have a few fave: Appertiser,dunkeld, shipman’s buzzer, hare’s ear, pheasant tails, daddy long legs, Charlie Maclean etc. hehehe..

You should try our tarpon in the brackish waters, my version of trout here because they feed in the morning and late afternoon and they jump like rainbow trout.

xx_3585 · July 17, 2007, 3:17pm

quote:
Originally posted by Irhamy
Hi NextBigKatch,
Well, breakage is just part of this angling game. I have a broken 2 premium fly rods within a month of purchase. One was broken about 12 days before my trip to the Maldives this year. But Nick of Tackle Box sent it for repair and got it back on the 10th day.A superb piece of customer service.

1970s was a wee bit a head of my time. I was in NE London Poly in mid 80s. Worked there until 1993. It was the Walthamstow and Hanningfield Resevoirs that did the damage on me as far as flyfishing is concerned. But, Newcastle was very near to some superb lakes. And fairly near to my fave Scottish fishing ground - Loch Ard and Loch Katrine. I wish i could go back there to fish those feisty brown trouts.

I am from Kepala Batas but I work in KL. I travel back to B’worth quite a bit because I have an office there.

Great to know you are still keeping the flies you tied. I still have mine. i have a few fave: Appertiser,dunkeld, shipman’s buzzer, hare’s ear, pheasant tails, daddy long legs, Charlie Maclean etc. hehehe..

You should try our tarpon in the brackish waters, my version of trout here because they feed in the morning and late afternoon and they jump like rainbow trout.

Touch wood, I have over 20 pieces of rod but have been very careful during transportation but mind you those are heavy rods so can take some mishandling at times. Hah so you came back earlier then me, I came back in 1995 after working most of time in the nuclear boiler fabrication industry. Yup remembered those brownies. Cumbria also has her fair share of good fly fishing spots, besides Scottish lochs. Kept on wanting to go back to visit but the Pound keeps me in check.

I did visit the Kuala Muda lock-gate once hoping for the monster siakaps as posted in th R&L, caught none but lost a few lures to the nets, sad.

Maybe I will take up your tip and try & hit some tarpons around here - hear that Juru, Sg Rambai are known for tarpons & siakaps - I am studying forum on the flies used for them, quite like the popper-like pink fly posted in one of the threads. I am going to make some to try out

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xx_4396 · July 17, 2007, 6:36pm

NexBigKatch,

Sg Rambai in Juru is a good place to start despite its dirty water. But that’s Penang for you! The place is quiet popular on weekends, I am sure you’ll find other fishermen there. I tend to go there weekdays at the crack of dawn, depending on the tide, using either no3/4/5 weight rod. Tarpon is a delightful fish to catch with these light rods.

I find this split tail pattern is also quite effective on the tarpons. Owing to its bonnie mouth the fly is tied on tandem style. The front hook is a long shank nymph no 6 or 8 and the stinger at the back a caddis or wet fly hook 2 sizes smaller. Tie 10 strands of flash in between the split tail and finish it off with a cut up yozuri soft bait series sotong to form the body and head. They love flashy stuff. Good luck.

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xx_3585 · July 17, 2007, 7:13pm

quote:
Originally posted by Irhamy
NexBigKatch,
Sg Rambai in Juru is a good place to start despite its dirty water. But that’s Penang for you! The place is quiet popular on weekends, I am sure you’ll find other fishermen there. I tend to go there weekdays at the crack of dawn, depending on the tide, using either no3/4/5 weight rod. Tarpon is a delightful fish to catch with these light rods.

I find this split tail pattern is also quite effective on the tarpons. Owing to its bonnie mouth the fly is tied on tandem style. The front hook is a long shank nymph no 6 or 8 and the stinger at the back a caddis or wet fly hook 2 sizes smaller. Tie 10 strands of flash in between the split tail and finish it off with a cut up yozuri soft bait series sotong to form the body and head. They love flashy stuff. Good luck.

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thanks bro, fly looked elongated but very tasty [:p]. Tandem style so the back hook is free swinging? What action is the fly ie floater or slow sinker ? Just arrived another rod - Greys GRX 6/7 - 9ft 6ins off eBay. Much better action then the 1st rod. Hmmm will be busy getting some flies done.

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xx_4396 · July 18, 2007, 12:04pm

The back hook is tied with a stiff 20lb fluoro. I am always inclined to use WF floating, stripping a fast figure of eight varying it with short pauses and sharp pulls. San Juan worm is also effective if they are feeding worms at the bottom. Tarpon come up to the top gulping air, you can tell this by the two bubbles they create.

At Sg Rambai they tend to boil at the surface by the hundreds, an amazing sight. Sometimes they congregate past the boom gate also by the hundreds and will take any fast stripped flies.

fisheR · July 18, 2007, 12:24pm

quote:
Originally posted by Irhamy
The back hook is tied with a stiff 20lb fluoro. I am always inclined to use WF floating, stripping a fast figure of eight varying it with short pauses and sharp pulls. San Juan worm is also effective if they are feeding worms at the bottom. Tarpon come up to the top gulping air, you can tell this by the two bubbles they create.
At Sg Rambai they tend to boil at the surface by the hundreds, an amazing sight. Sometimes they congregate past the boom gate also by the hundreds and will take any fast stripped flies.

Say… is that the ‘famous’ condom fly?? [:D]

fisheR

xx_4396 · July 18, 2007, 1:06pm

Yes sir, it is.

It has matured to several versions over the last 12 years or so. It is the fly for all season for me.

xx_4215 · August 9, 2007, 11:12am

hello,

I am from Penang. I know a few spots.

Here is one of them. (Easily accesible and lot of fun). To try out your fly go under Penang bridge.
Pay RM10 go to any tiang not more than #50 or #55 (skip #43-#48, This is a low sand bar area). Fly selection: red or bright yellow. Ikan bilis resemblance.

Fish you would be going after are top water (Crocodile Needlefish) Sometimes little Trevally, litttle Queenfish. Fish for crocodile needlefish during slow water tide. When the afternoon tides comes in try for trevallies and queenfishes. When the tide turn the other way switch back to the crocodile needlefish. You will notice the tide change when the colour of the water changes to brown in between the tiang.

These fishes are very small they would range from 2 lbs and below.

Directions: (from Town area) take PG bridge exit towards Seagate/Bayan Lepas. You will pass Tesco on your right. Keep to your left dont take the PG bridge exit towards Seberang Prai. After passing the bridge exit you will see a stretch of Malay seafood stalls of your left. Go straight to the road. Go towards the end of the road. See the pak cik with a old wooden boat.

Ask him for the best tiang for the best tide. (I would suggest giving him a tip each time you visit him) After becoming a regular buy (red Marlboro) cigarettes for him. He is your best bet for the PG bridge area. Even though smoking is bad for health

Hope this helps and not overwhelming. Please practice catch and release. Fishes in PG bridge are exhaustive.

Cheers,
CJ

xx_3585 · August 11, 2007, 11:01pm

quote:
Originally posted by chuanjiek
hello,
I am from Penang. I know a few spots.

Here is one of them. (Easily accesible and lot of fun). To try out your fly go under Penang bridge.
Pay RM10 go to any tiang not more than #50 or #55 (skip #43-#48, This is a low sand bar area). Fly selection: red or bright yellow. Ikan bilis resemblance.

Fish you would be going after are top water (Crocodile Needlefish) Sometimes little Trevally, litttle Queenfish. Fish for crocodile needlefish during slow water tide. When the afternoon tides comes in try for trevallies and queenfishes. When the tide turn the other way switch back to the crocodile needlefish. You will notice the tide change when the colour of the water changes to brown in between the tiang.

These fishes are very small they would range from 2 lbs and below.

Directions: (from Town area) take PG bridge exit towards Seagate/Bayan Lepas. You will pass Tesco on your right. Keep to your left dont take the PG bridge exit towards Seberang Prai. After passing the bridge exit you will see a stretch of Malay seafood stalls of your left. Go straight to the road. Go towards the end of the road. See the pak cik with a old wooden boat.

Ask him for the best tiang for the best tide. (I would suggest giving him a tip each time you visit him) After becoming a regular buy (red Marlboro) cigarettes for him. He is your best bet for the PG bridge area. Even though smoking is bad for health

Hope this helps and not overwhelming. Please practice catch and release. Fishes in PG bridge are exhaustive.

Cheers,
CJ

Thanks CJ for the tip. Never thot of fly fishing under the bridge, but why now [:D]. Maybe its a bit tuf now that so much construction work going on [:(] so when the extension is completed even a better haven for the fishes with the increase in tiangs.

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xx_4215 · August 13, 2007, 8:24pm

Hi NexBigKatch,

Hope you find the information helpful. If you are interested in less traffic congested areas. Try this: Hike to Pantai Kerachut from Teluk Bahang (into the National Forest) north bound of Penang island. Park anywhere before the ranger station (remember to sign in before hiking into the forest). Follow directions in there. It will lead you to the destination.
Upon reaching Pantai Kerachut walk towards the end of the marina. Try to fly for ‘tiga gigi’ (sam geh). Sorry I dont know the name in english. Use white shrimp resemblence. They bite best usually before the morning sun comes out.
Have fun!!