hellow ppl…
i m planning to buy n customize a rod for my casting activities. any ideas of good / reputable rod builder for me?
any suggestions on type of blanks to buy (e.g brands?)
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There are so many local tackle shops in town who sell thousands of fishing rods and most these products are very good in quality. They are tested for different fishing conditions with extreme precision. AND they are not very expensive either. Thus, there is no need to customize. Just go into the shops and select the one closest to your needs.
Hi BB…
Custom rod is indeed expensive…but it sure come with satisfaction…
I think Fish Hunter and Kepong do sell blank…but not sure what kind /type and brand.You can ask them for the builder…i think we also have a few builder in the forum too…uncle Thomas is one that i know…
Just be carefull…make sure the builder is reputable and not a beginner that claim to be a builder…
Theres 2 kind of builder in rod building…custom rod builder and assembler.The later one usually will get the blank and parts and asseble them together…so u will usually get the same like mass produce rods from them.Custom builder usually will try to suggest the blank…what component according to your need and budget and he usually will try his best to assemble the rods and component the way that you can get the most performance out of it…not just simply put them together and with the spacing wch only god know where he get those spacing from.You can design your own and ask him to build it…
For me sometimes its hard to get something that i really want(8-9 footer,3-4 pcs casting rod for seabass inshore application,light enuff to cast 1/4-3/4 oz,most of this kind of blank come in 2 pcs)…the only way is to go custom…i do it myself…worth it???for me yes…but still expensive even i do them on my own…
what brand and type of blank???its depend on how much u re willing to shell the money out…and what application the blank intended to be use…
You are so right, rapalajoe. There are lots of rod assemblers but only a few rod builders in Malaysia and fewer rod crafters, who turn a custom rod into a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
As for the expensive part, to me it’s relative. Compared to ‘off the shelf’ rod costing RM300.00 or less, yes, a custom rod is expensive but where high end rods of RM500.00 and above, custom rods are cheap. Without mentioning brand names, a custom rod complete with top end components like Fuji SiC guides cost the same as a factory built one of the same brand and model built with cheaper non-Fuji Al Oxide (Hardloy) guides. On top of that, the rod is built to fit the style of fishing required with proper guide spacing, butt length, reel seat placement, thread size, with/without underwrap, etc. Now that’s value for the money.
rapalajoe, would you mind shearing how you did your 3/4 pc casting rod? Did you start with a 1 pc blank and make your own furrels of fiberglass, like what Graphite USA do with their 2 pc blanks?
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Hi UBOB,
Here in ireland its very hard to get good and modern lure rods.Most of them are a traditional European style long and heavy rated casting weight.The maximum lure that i use is 21g(3/4oz) and most of my lure is in sub 20g to 7g(1/4oz).Desperate and fussy make me order a blank from state.Rainshadow SB843-3,3pcs,10-17lb,5/16-3/4 oz.
http://www.batsonenterprises.com/content/view/51/186/
I construct this one on spinning set up…3000 daiwa spin reel…10 lb braid.The guide space in New Guide Concept.I cut a few inch from the butt piece and sleeve in the graphite tubing and make the split grip.Very happy with performance.Unfortunately a few week after that the tip got broke by friends that trying it,he just simply yank the rod when the spinner got snag.
I contact the manufacture(Batson) since the blank still under warranty…they ask for the broken piece and replace me with new blank.
Since the new replacement blank is the same model…the tapered also same…so its make it easy to construct a male/female ferule using a blank piece that i cut from the butt piece of my previous broken blank.the piece fit nicely mating with the new blank butt.The ‘piece’ is then fit to the carbon tubing enforce with a 6 inch small diameter,thick wall crap graphite blank from old rod,both side arbored and secure with epoxies.i construct the handle on the graphite tubing.At first i was a bit skeptical on the rigidity of the join(got this idea from rodbuilding.org).But after abusing it for more than 9 month the result surprise me that the join is still rigid,no play or squeaking sound and still intact.
The other method that i know is like what u mention,to make ferule/over sleeve or spigot join for a 1 piece converted to multi piece or 2 piece to 4 piece.The problem for me is to get a fiberglass ferule or graphite ferule that have a same tapered with the blank.Other than that is to get a fast action #heavy weight multipiece fly blank for this kind of lure rods.
Hopefully u can write or put some article on rod building or rods here for reference.Still remember ur article bout spiral wrap few years back in R&L??.I think its a 2 or 3 transition guide right???Now the latest that i heard is a bumper or ‘simple’ spiral with only 1 transition guide…
Badbuddyz bro…this UBOB is the right guys to talk to if u still interested in custom rod…
Cheeeerrrrsss…
Thanks,rapalajoe, for shareing. Yes, rodbuilding.org, to me still the best rodbuilding forum and I learned a lot from the guys there, extremely helpful people. The ‘bumper’ spiral came into the picture a few years ago but after I wrote about the spiral wrap in R & L. Quite suprised that you manage to have a copy of R & L over there. I’ve built a few for my own use using the bumper guide. Seems to work just as well but I still prefer the 2 guide transition system as this gives a smoother and longer cast.
Yes, getting the right sized blank tube for the over sleeve is a major problem but I do have a fair bit of broken rods in my shop for that though I don’t recommend that as the work involved can be costly. Works fine for the hobbist to build a good quality travel rod as these are hard to come by.
Putting articles here may not be that worthwhile as you can see, not that many forumers are interested in rodbuilding but more than will to share what little I know.
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I know one place and i think they are really expert in rod building..there is tackle shop in SS3 Kelana Jaya, Extreme Anglers Trd. Mostly they do custom rod, modification, Services & repair rod and reel.
You can contact this guy for details:
Mr. Kenny 019-355 1699
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Originally posted by rapalajoe
Hi BB.... Custom rod is indeed expensive....but it sure come with satisfaction....I think Fish Hunter and Kepong do sell blank…but not sure what kind /type and brand.You can ask them for the builder…i think we also have a few builder in the forum too…uncle Thomas is one that i know…
Just be carefull…make sure the builder is reputable and not a beginner that claim to be a builder…
Theres 2 kind of builder in rod building…custom rod builder and assembler.The later one usually will get the blank and parts and asseble them together…so u will usually get the same like mass produce rods from them.Custom builder usually will try to suggest the blank…what component according to your need and budget and he usually will try his best to assemble the rods and component the way that you can get the most performance out of it…not just simply put them together and with the spacing wch only god know where he get those spacing from.You can design your own and ask him to build it…
For me sometimes its hard to get something that i really want(8-9 footer,3-4 pcs casting rod for seabass inshore application,light enuff to cast 1/4-3/4 oz,most of this kind of blank come in 2 pcs)…the only way is to go custom…i do it myself…worth it???for me yes…but still expensive even i do them on my own…
what brand and type of blank???its depend on how much u re willing to shell the money out…and what application the blank intended to be use…
Hello RJ,
Thanks for your recommendation, it depends on what BB needs and his budget. Right now the hottest brand in the market is the XZOGA factory fitted rods and the blanks for place to order custom made rods, ranging from 6lb up for bait casting rod. The custom made rods can cost from RM700.00 to 1k complete with FUJI SIC GUIDES, REEL SEAT AND CROSSED BASE BUTT [OPTIONAL]. I can cater for customer’s requirement, following customer’s specification and design and binding color combination. In actual fact, there is nothing much to be added for a light bait casting rod, the idea is to make the rod as light as possible, so the less hardware [like fancy color rings & spacers] added, the lighter will be the rod. Not like those jigging rods, the trends now is fancy looking handles. Below are some of my latest design:
Hey badbuddyz,
I think that before anyone can recommend a blank to purchase, you need to tell them what type of fishing you’re planning on doing…that and lure size, line size, etc.
uncle thomas lee…boli bagi harga custom rod 4 bottom fishing,saya guna tiagra50,braided 120lb..saya tak mau guna roller..warna merah,semua merah..panjang rod 5`5 kalo boli pendek sikit lagi baik…tempat reel tu saya nak aluminium…ni saya punya no.0168803331.my email add east_mile77@yahoo.com
terima kasih.
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Originally posted by mel77
uncle thomas lee...boli bagi harga custom rod 4 bottom fishing,saya guna tiagra50,braided 120lb..saya tak mau guna roller..warna merah,semua merah..panjang rod 5`5 kalo boli pendek sikit lagi baik...tempat reel tu saya nak aluminium...ni saya punya no.0168803331.my email add east_mile77@yahoo.com terima kasih.
Sorry for the late reply, just came back from a fishing trip. I can build a stand up series game rod with BIG FOOT AFTCO ROLLERS to match the Tiagra 50 OR 80. There are two version, one with straight butt [one piece type] or the bent butt type which can be dismantled at the butt. WRT prices, you can contact me by email or h/p:019 7251340
NOTE: Be warned, to play with 100 to 130lb braided line loaded in Tiagra 50 or 80 mounted on big game rod, you need good lap harness and waist bucket harness for stand up combat. For the April fishing competition at the spratlys, no fighting chair is allowed.
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Originally posted by thomas leequote:
Originally posted by mel77
uncle thomas lee...boli bagi harga custom rod 4 bottom fishing,saya guna tiagra50,braided 120lb..saya tak mau guna roller..warna merah,semua merah..panjang rod 5`5 kalo boli pendek sikit lagi baik...tempat reel tu saya nak aluminium...ni saya punya no.0168803331.my email add east_mile77@yahoo.com terima kasih.Sorry for the late reply, just came back from a fishing trip. I can build a stand up series game rod with BIG FOOT AFTCO ROLLERS to match the Tiagra 50 OR 80. There are two version, one with straight butt [one piece type] or the bent butt type which can be dismantled at the butt. WRT prices, you can contact me by email or h/p:019 7251340
NOTE: Be warned, to play with 100 to 130lb braided line loaded in Tiagra 50 or 80 mounted on big game rod, you need good lap harness and waist bucket harness for stand up combat. For the April fishing competition at the spratlys, no fighting chair is allowed.
Alternatively if you do not like the rod with rollers, I can build one stand up series with heavy duty fuji sic guides and aluminum reel seat and aluminum gimbal. It can be built with red color for the rod and binding, but the handle is black eva. The rod will be with one year warranty against material defect.
Uncle, i just sent a message to you regarding my custom rod. Please e-mail to the address at the end of the message. E-mail lagi satu byk spam, susah mau tgk [:D]
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Originally posted by gelama_pisang
Uncle, i just sent a message to you regarding my custom rod. Please e-mail to the address at the end of the message. E-mail lagi satu byk spam, susah mau tgk [:D]
Hello Fadzly,
Thanks for your email. Already replied, please check your mail.
wow…thanks bros,
i m looking at 6 footer 1 pcs, need to be very light piece of rod. maybe EVA handle, minimum quantity of rings but quality ones. FUJI SiC?
i m planning to make it spiral too…any problems with the rod’s back bone if i m using spiral wrap? but then it is possible to hv JDM fuji reel seat? i feel that the normal fuji reelseat is not nice…
i m looking at 500 to 1k budget..
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Originally posted by badbuddyz
wow...thanks bros, i m looking at 6 footer 1 pcs, need to be very light piece of rod. maybe EVA handle, minimum quantity of rings but quality ones. FUJI SiC? i m planning to make it spiral too...any problems with the rod's back bone if i m using spiral wrap? but then it is possible to hv JDM fuji reel seat? i feel that the normal fuji reelseat is not nice... i m looking at 500 to 1k budget..Gone Baitcasting!</font id=“blue”>
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There are things I need to know:
a] what reel are you going to match?
b] what poundage of line you are likely to use?
c] what weight of lures you are likely to use?
d] what kind of action do you want, fast or medium?
e] Do you just doing casting only or likely to do bottom fishing?
f] what fish are you targeting?
g] what is your favorite color of binding?
Spiral wrapping is not a problem,I can get the correct backbone, if not money back guarantee.
BTW, a light fuji reel seat is more practical & reliable than other reel seat.
I think what he mean is a new fuji ACS reel seat…
http://www.matagi.co.jp/acsvss/index.html
Or the coloured one like this…
http://www.matagi.co.jp/english/bbp02.php?itemid=17
http://www.matagi.co.jp/english/2008color.jpg
Btw i think its all possible as long as the customer willing to pay for the price…and all the seat above are fuji…
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Originally posted by rapalajoe
I think what he mean is a new fuji ACS reel seat... [url]http://www.matagi.co.jp/acsvss/index.html[/url] Or the coloured one like this... [url]http://www.matagi.co.jp/english/bbp02.php?itemid=17[/url] [url]http://www.matagi.co.jp/english/2008color.jpg[/url] Btw i think its all possible as long as the customer willing to pay for the price....and all the seat above are fuji....
Yes the ACS FUJI REEL SEAT should be essential for a light bait casting rod especially with the exposed blank in direct contact with the fore finger under the reel seat, this is for more sensitivity for vibration and bite detection. Cost wise it is almost double the price of the older version. The colored one are even more expensive.
thanks uncle thomas, actually i m looking for a light ~ medium casting rod, my reference is in red below, i hv done abit of homework n looking for shikari, g-loomis(usa) or pacific composite. depends what poundage they can offer n really looking for the most lightest. the matagi reel seat shold be nice. [:p]
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There are things I need to know: a] what reel are you going to match? shimano conquest 100DC, Alphas b] what poundage of line you are likely to use?8~16,6~14 - will finalize later c] what weight of lures you are likely to use?3g~12g if possible d] what kind of action do you want, fast or medium? ML,M e] Do you just doing casting only or likely to do bottom fishing? casting only f] what fish are you targeting?juve toman,PB g] what is your favorite color of binding?hvnt decide yetSpiral wrapping is not a problem,I can get the correct backbone, if not money back guarantee.
BTW, a light fuji reel seat is more practical & reliable than other reel seat.
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