Hi Guys,
I have just bought a Suzuki DF6 4-stroke outboard (my first ever!), to match to a Pelican Bayou scanoe.
Any of you with experience using this model, can give feedback ie. performance, reliability, potential problems etc?
I have not even taken it for a cruise yet, only run the engine in a trough, to “run-in”. The engine sounds very quiet and smooth, compared to 2-strokes. I’m already smiling [:)]
Thanks in advance!
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JungleBum,
Congratulations for owning a very good and latest version of Scanoe -Bayou. I almost took the Game Fish but now regret for not being aggressive enough in my bid.
For your DF6, basically you have to -
Use the lubricant of correct viscosity. If it is 10W - 30, then stick to it.
When new, run in OBM for 10 hours at low rev, or as recommended.
Always rev up slowly and dont throttle it like you do with your Suzuki Kapcai.
Drain off unused petrol from reservoir before storing engine or burn it by keeping the OBM running after turning off petrol supply.
Change lub every 6 months or sooner if usage is heavy.
Check gear oil when you change lub and change it once a year; heavy usage requires more frequent changes.
Always bring along grade 1200 sand paper, extra spark plugs, shear pins and tool kits on your trips.
Best of luck.
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Originally posted by Piscator
JungleBum,Congratulations for owning a very good and latest version of Scanoe -Bayou. I almost took the Game Fish but now regret for not being aggressive enough in my bid.
For your DF6, basically you have to -
Use the lubricant of correct viscosity. If it is 10W - 30, then stick to it.
When new, run in OBM for 10 hours at low rev, or as recommended.
Always rev up slowly and dont throttle it like you do with your Suzuki Kapcai.
Drain off unused petrol from reservoir before storing engine or burn it by keeping the OBM running after turning off petrol supply.
Change lub every 6 months or sooner if usage is heavy.
Check gear oil when you change lub and change it once a year; heavy usage requires more frequent changes.
Always bring along grade 1200 sand paper, extra spark plugs, shear pins and tool kits on your trips.
Best of luck.
Piscator Bro,
I have to say that you have provided more information on engine maintenance here then the salesperson who sold anyone an OBM!
Thank you for the valuable information![:D]
RainbowRunner
Tightlines and screaming reels
Hey, thanks a bunch Piscator!
The think came with a thick manual. Then I found out its in 564 languages[:0]
The distributor recommended 10W40, so that’s what I’m using. The one big warning he gave is that never to lay down the outboard with the lever facing down, cos that would swamp th cylinder head. Is this serious stuff?
Shear pin? Alamak, i thought it had a clutch thingy. Better get those pins…
Actually, I was searching around for a 2nd hand Old Town or Coleman. I finally gave up and went for the Bayou, during Explorer’s Boat Show.
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Hope one day I can fish along with you. We can go in a convoy. Stay in the boats for the trip. Triple cheers !!!
Regarding 4stroke outboard laying (tidor) position.. it is true that the orientation is very crucial and extra care need to be taken when transporting in cars etc since what is ‘level’ while stationary might not be so once the car moves and climbs and corner ‘maut’. Salesman says that if engine oil gets into top crankcase (or wherever it shouldn’t be in the first place), then kena overhaul, but I call that ‘bull****’ talking, scamming for more $$$. There are ways to clear out the engine oil from the top crankcase (or wherever) without overhaul.
p/s some people don’t recommend pantang2… warm-up enjin elok2, then lenjan (as long as below redline), then change engine oil for the first time after equivalent of 30miles or so… claimed procedure works on basically all kinds of automotive engine.. and worked for my bike! <try google mototune break-in >
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Originally posted by Piscator Always bring along grade 1200 sand paper, extra spark plugs, shear pins and tool kits on your trips.
Piscator, can you please explain the uses of these things? I assume these are for emergencies, but I don’t know what they are for, especially sandpaper and the pin.
Sand paper is for rubbing off carbon from the spark plug. At times you find starting difficult in the middle of nowhere, remove the spark plug and do some cleaning. Should you drop it in the water when removing it, then dont bother. Just replace it with a spare one. Dont spoil your day by diving in to locate it.
The spare shear pin is for replacing the broken pin at the propeller. We find timbers, submerged rocks, often hit our propellers and break the pin. When the pin is broken, the engine will run but the propeller will not spin. That is clear sign of a broken pin. So just replace it to continue with your journey.
And dun forget, get extra rubber impeller (water pump) in stock.
Apa dikesal dengan kepupusan ikan, ayuh tangani kerakusan manusia!</font id=“blue”>
Don’t regret about fish extinction, just stop human’s greediness!</font id=“red”>
Ikan kita adalah warisan yang tak ternilai. Puliharalah ia demi generasi akan datang.
Our fish is a priceless heritage. Conserve it for future generation.
Pushing the angling limits! Lu tatau pancing jangan cakap tada ikannnn!!![:D]
I have no experience about the water pump. But my friend told me to bring along a length of tennis string to clear the water inlet/outlet hole if it is stuck. Where to learn about the water impeller? If you do service your OBM, please let me know. I would like to learn about that part of the OBM from you. Thank you.
OK, regarding the water impeller, those were made from rubber. Those rubber lips tends to crack and broken upon long storage resulting lost of ‘sucking’ and ‘pumping’ effect. From there, the water impeller no longer can supply enuff cooling water to cool down the engine, hence engine may overheating.
Replacing the impeller takes an average technical skill because you need to remove the OBM lower unit. The impeller was located inside the lower unit where it was the closest position to water level. Proper alignment of drive shaft and gearshift mechanism must be done during installation. You dun have to be an engineer to do it, but once you get hands-on on these, you’ll comprehend it better.
Thick 120lbs monofilament line is just fine in aid to ‘jolok’ the water outlet just in case the water passage is blocked.
Apa dikesal dengan kepupusan ikan, ayuh tangani kerakusan manusia!</font id=“blue”>
Don’t regret about fish extinction, just stop human’s greediness!</font id=“red”>
Ikan kita adalah warisan yang tak ternilai. Puliharalah ia demi generasi akan datang.
Our fish is a priceless heritage. Conserve it for future generation.
Pushing the angling limits! Lu tatau pancing jangan cakap tada ikannnn!!![:D]
Wahoo-san,
I think among us here, you are the only one with mechanical experience to take apart and put back an OBM. Suggest that we have a clinic on general maintenance and minor emergency repairs. Your opinion, please.
RainbowRunner
Tightlines and screaming reels
Gud idea, pls make an arrangement ASAP but only on Sunday. Just name the venue and date, I’ll be there…
Apa dikesal dengan kepupusan ikan, ayuh tangani kerakusan manusia!</font id=“blue”>
Don’t regret about fish extinction, just stop human’s greediness!</font id=“red”>
Ikan kita adalah warisan yang tak ternilai. Puliharalah ia demi generasi akan datang.
Our fish is a priceless heritage. Conserve it for future generation.
Pushing the angling limits! Lu tatau pancing jangan cakap tada ikannnn!!![:D]
Roger that. Would arrange for venue and date. Details would be posted here for all interested parties.
You bringing your OBM, stand and tools or do I have to make arrangements for that as well?
RainbowRunner
Tightlines and screaming reels
dun worry about the ABM (Alat bantuan Mengajar). I’ll bring my OBM, the stand and tools need (these are the ABMs).
Just need your help to get a water container (large tong sampah shud be OK) so that we can soak the OBM lower unit for hot test later.
mebbe KAGUM and PeMM can make this as a joint event. Howzat?
Apa dikesal dengan kepupusan ikan, ayuh tangani kerakusan manusia!</font id=“blue”>
Don’t regret about fish extinction, just stop human’s greediness!</font id=“red”>
Ikan kita adalah warisan yang tak ternilai. Puliharalah ia demi generasi akan datang.
Our fish is a priceless heritage. Conserve it for future generation.
Pushing the angling limits! Lu tatau pancing jangan cakap tada ikannnn!!![:D]
Pray hard the clinic will be conducted when I am not elsewhere. Fix it in January?
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Originally posted by Piscator
Pray hard the clinic will be conducted when I am not elsewhere. Fix it in January?
IMHO,we have it on first, second or third weekend of January 2009. Chinese New Year falls on the last week of January 2009. Giving time for all the balik kampongs, etc; everything should return to normal by second weekend of February.
Opinions, please.
RainbowRunner
Tightlines and screaming reels
RR,
Thanks.
JungleBum,
My dear, how much is a Suzuki DF6 ?
Earlier this year, the shop I asked quoted RM3500 for the DF6. I wish I had taken the DF6 instead of getting a cheap crappy chinese one. A decision I regret very much.
Never-ending problem with the chinese OB… the first thing, it was missing the safety lanyard needed to start it! Factory never sent replacement even when said they would. After rewiring the OB myself (no safety lanyard now), still found the OB very hard to start, starter wear out after 200+ pulls (have to open and rebuild with washer), screws loosening everywhere after only 10hrs operation (open and retighten again), and plug fouls quicker than your trip. The OB dies often and refuse to start when you need it. I’ve had to row from end of Bersia dam back to my landing because of this. Also, way underpowered, feels more like 4hp instead of 6.
In the few months and two trips and I had it, I have had to rebuild the top parts 3-4 times. The one I had is a true lemon. In short, if you don’t want to ruin your lovely fishing trip, skip the cheap brands (the one I bought was Shunfeng). I believe Suzuki DF6 is one of the better OBs out there, well worth its price.
Go for Honda BF5. It is a good machine. Just look at the configuration and the parts of the engine; they are very fine and polished.
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