Hi, does anyone have a list of the thinnest/finest lines for each pound class? I usually use either 15 or 20lb lines & I find that the Ichiban brand is thinnest compared to others.
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Originally posted by chris1
Hi, does anyone have a list of the thinnest/finest lines for each pound class? I usually use either 15 or 20lb lines & I find that the Ichiban brand is thinnest compared to others.
Test your thin lines before using, to see if they have the correct poundage as stated on the labels.[:D][:D][:D]
You may be using some over rated lines if my hunch is correct.
really? It does seem strange to me that almost all the line poundages in the Ichiban range are thinner than most other brands. If Ichiban can do it, why can’t the others? Haven’t tried braided lines before, are they thinner than mono?
Chris - go to any fishing shop and compare - you will find that the braids are much2 finer, and also that they normally break at a point much higher than what they claim !
Just remember that they are not the answer for everything - some people still prefer mono, while others use braid for their main line, but use mono as a shock leader to overcome the zero stretch of braid.
Think carefully - braids are expensive, and difficult to untangle if you mess up.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the feedback. Braids are like threads right? Must give it a try, I think they are harder to find though.
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Hi Mike,Thanks for the feedback. Braids are like threads right? Must give it a try, I think they are harder to find though.
You canfind braided line in any fishing tackle shops but the brands can be mind boggling[:0] and they are much more expensive than mono lines[xx(]</font id=“purple”>
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Yes, braids are going to cost you more e.g. Berkley FireLine XDS will set you back Rm 50+ for 150 yards. This is available in most tackle shops.
For pond fishing, I use only 75 yards - and some cheap mono as a backing so that the braid comes up to about 2 mm from the edge of the spool.
When it starts to get tired, this 75 yards can be reversed - transfer to another spool, do it one more time, and then wind back to your reel, so that " front " of the line becomes the " back ".
This helps keep the cost down. [:)]
since u guys moving into the area of braided lines, i got a question:
from your experiences… which braided line is the thinnest; and really does live up to its lb specifications?
nyamaoan bro,
usually they’re bout the same diameter la for the given poundage… depends on the coating nia i think
From wat i see, fireline and tuffline is slightly(slightly again) thinker than powerpro, spiderwire etc.
Almost all live up to expectation, since like Mike says, they’re usually much higher than their action stated poundage lor… however they do deterioriate through use and exploit. They might break lower than their stated poundage rate if they’re nicks and cuts suffered from long term use and abrassion etc… and they’re not very abbrasion resistent since theyre very thin u c…
Last but not leaest, yea they’re hell lots more expensive than ordinary mono(i say ordinary cos they’re some claim that the best la brand la could cost as much). And yeah they’re also much thinner than mono of the same poundage. Also do rmb, wat u pay is wat u get… normally my go to is fireline and powerpro
Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you
some ppl claim powerpro’s quality is starting to deteriorate. dunno what the rest of u have to say about that. i never used power pro before so i can’t say that’s my opinion.
but at about same price, sufix matrix pro has been great for me.
also tried a cheaper one before called otora. it’s strong, but really thick. i’ve used these braided lines for more than a year now, since i try my best to take care n wash after each use.
recently a friend gave me some sufix performance braid y6. i think it’s really strong coz i used a 15lb to fight my first 7+kg pacu, and it was amazing. no problem at all with the fish suddenly shooting off countless times. i love that line.
recently bought ajiking pro game braid and iguana X4 line to try out. haven’t really had powerful fish on these two lines yet, so i’m not sure what to make of the quality for now.
anybody can comment, if experienced with these lines, about the ajiking pro game braid and the iguana X4?
oh ya… and any more reaplies to my earlier question… what is the thinnest braided line u all know of?
" … normally my go to is fireline and powerpro " - TJS
For those who have been following the postings, you cannot go wrong if you follow what TJS is recommending. I have done the same for the past few years and do not have any complaints - except that my latest purchase was a 300 yard SUFIX Performance Braid.
The SUFIX was Rm 110+ for 300 yards ( I spool only 75 yards at a time ) - this will last me a long long time - especially if I reverse it.
It is still too new for me to make a comment - but like the rest, the color starts to go after a few weeks.[:(!]
… and oh Yes, the thinnest braid ?
From a technical point of view, prepare to sit in your favorite shop for a while - a comparison can be done there because all the relevant information is on the pack.
From a usage point of view, you will not see a difference - the variances are so small - go for what you are confident in.
can’t say much 'bout monos, haven’t used much
even the 16lb Abulon i’m using can be snapped by hand, if i pull hard enough - it is thin.
my bad moments with mono:
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snaps easier than braid
my bad mos with braid:
lost soft plastic with weight and hook on a cast - i guess i didn’t retie it properly, my bad.
memory is more than enough reason for me to switch to braid.
memory is what happens when our line remains spooled and after sometime when we wanna fish, it comes off the spools in curls, not flowing out smoothly; worse, you’ll get a whole tangled mess.
i’ve also had hooks come lose, most probably because I didn’t (know how to) tie properly.
tho’ braid can be 2-3 times more expensive than mono, it’s plenty thin, strong, limp, takes knots well, no slippage unless it wasn’t tied properly.
need to look out for nicks or cuts regularly or you might lose a fish when it snaps … checking the line whenever you fish and snipping off the weakened parts does away with that risk.
best of all - NO memory. comes off smooth and easy, tangle or curl-free, no mess.
to each their own. test the lines and find out which one works best for you. [8D]
some swear by mono for the “give” or stretch, believing it increases hook ups or catch rates.
others swear by the “feel” of braid, that they can even feel if the fish are nibbling, pulling, etc.
others combine both, ie braid main with a mono leader.
test them and then decide which is best for your style and type.
[quote]Originally posted by acheong
can’t say much 'bout monos, haven’t used much
wow…rich angler here la[:D][:D][:D]…menot so lucky man…so hv 2 use both mono n braided 2 save cost[:p]</font id=“purple”>
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wow. anglers that haven’t used much mono lines are anglers that pretty much went straight to braided the moment started fishing.
either rich guy, or just the willing-to-spend type.
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Originally posted by nyamaoan
wow. anglers that haven't used much mono lines are anglers that pretty much went straight to braided the moment started fishing.either rich guy, or just the willing-to-spend type.
Nyamaoan bro,
There’re exception bro… I did not start fishing with braided. Instead, my fishing is pretty much very old school where i just use a long stick with thich mono tied to it’s end tat’s it…
Slowly i began to use rod and reel, inherited from dad and uncle’s, I’m still using mono, since it’s cheap. Anyway when i started fishing eleven years ago there isnt much selection of braid, besides just started fishing only still new to angling isnt tat aware of such thing… and my dad was the type tat can use then can edi kind
Well in short, i started fishing with mono actually… for half my fishing lifetime, mono dominate undisputedly in my fishing line selection… only the later half did i manage to experiment and afford braid with my newly gained freedom and money and ofcos reading lol…
Then slower i’m in a transition state from mono to braid… while i certainly do not like braid then, due to lack of info and guidance(everthing is trial and error back then, i dunno wat’s internet, let alone MFN). After some time with experiment and experience gained slowly i am able to use braid correctly…
Tat’s when i use braid more commonly and before i knew it i was stuck… Due to the neglect on mono and some superiority braided has against mono, and braid ability to overcome any issue pertaining to mono advantages. I found that i could no longer go back to braid… yea tat’s funny i no longer hav that feel and sensitivity…
Maybe too old edi hahahaha… sense of touch also diminish liao hahahah. And btw i’m not rich at all… just tat i rather save up and invest on something better. so tat i save more in the long run.
Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you
talking about saving money, in long term, both braided n mono are almost same economical. my power-pro 35lb is in my reel for almost 8 yrs now (i’ve already reversed it). it cost me RM50++ (bought fr Uncle Bob as promotional item). imagine if i were using mono, i would have changed the line at least twice. an mono price would be RM10 per 100m, so it would have cost me RM30, or even more.
and most of all, braided give me less hassle especially on spinning reels as they are almost 0 memory n able to withstand line twist.
try not to go for cheapo brand, as they will give u bad experience. my 1st braided was some el-cheapo which only cost RM20++ per 100m, n i lost numerous toman due to line break.
i’ve tried most of the braided line in the market through out these few years, and my personal preference will be power-pro, spider-wire and suffix matrix-pro as these few is very affordable and well performed. seahawk tiger-braid is not bad, but the braid itself is not tight enough and can can easily break once it has slight damage on the surface.
fire-line is my new favorite as for light lure or when i do a lot of twitching. fire-line is harder compare to other type of braided line, as they are actually fused. this give it an advantage of less tangling problem when the line is not tightly reeled into your spool (twitching, walk-the-dog, using soft-plastic usually resulted such situation).
btw, please be aware there was once fake power-pro in the market where the quality is really a big issue. try not go for the so called “cheap” well-established brand.
just my 0.0005 cts worth of opinion [:p]
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i’m also stuck to braided lines dy nowadays, like bro tjs.
and i would definitely agree with bro yeap that braided is less hassle.
i guess it really saves us a lot of money in the long run if we take care of our braided lines. as for trying cheaper brands, sometimes i’m just curious about those products… so once in a while try some local brands… see how la. hehe.
hope dun lose too big a fish on the cheaper lines n then regret la.
but generally, even cheaper braided lines do better n last longer than most mono lines. i’m stuck to sufix matrix pro n performance braid now. but performance braid a bit pricey la.
recently tried a cheaper ajiking one called ajiking pro game braid. haven’t given it a real run, so dunno much bout quality.
also tried iguana x4 recently, but not really cheap la. around same price or a little less than power pro’s price. so far not bad la. the only thing i hate is the dye comes off n gets on my reel n rod! i know most braided lines will fade in colour, but this one stain my reel n rod quite badly, until i have to really wash thoroughly, and wipe every nook n cranny of the reel of the yellow dye from the line.
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[quote]Originally posted by acheong
can't say much 'bout monos, haven't used muchwow…rich angler here la[:D][:D][:D]…menot so lucky man…so hv 2 use both mono n braided 2 save cost[:p]</font id=“purple”>
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ahem Wong Sifu, nyamaoan,
I started off with mono, don’t we all? [:p]
But I didn’t have teachers, good OR bad.
And I didn’t fish often enough to get to know the right people.
And I encountered the dreaded mono memory … fed up [V]
Stuck with elcheapo set until recently.
Muh sifu sez invest in something that’ll serve and, with care, last … not forever la [:p]
We had 6 lines snapped over 3 nights.
Hence the switch and try out for braids.
Mah spiderwire 20lb camo 300 yards cost RM80-85.
Wound two full spools of 2000-2500 series reels, with leftover.
Compared with mono of the same width/diameter and poundage, braid gives me:
a) more stronger line on spool
b) no more snaps
c) NO MORE MEMORY issues
All in all, bang for the buck [^]
I ain’t loaded [B)] but I am willing to invest … up to a point.
Sure ain’t gonna spend RM70-100+ on 100m of Trilene or wotever.
Spiderwire has its fair share of dissing, subject to grade and usage and manufactured batch - it’s also had good things said bout it.
At my end, it has held good so far.
Also, becos me not loaded, dat’s why looking out for Wong Sifu’s cast offs [:p]
As for stretch/give, i set muh drag to compensate, lower the rod, run with it … wotever [:D]
yeah. most of us started with monos. which is good la i think. at least we get a feel of it before getting addicted to braided.
i also nobody to learn from actually. all that i know, i learn from reading up online, watching videos, n now on this forum. only a couple of years fishing only. that also not all the time. n i started as one of those parit or “abandoned catchment area” fisherman. never willing to pay for fishing. n never had anybody take me. truth be told, i never knew there were such things as payponds even after about a year into fishing. haha.
back to braided lines… i think i should give spiderwire a try too someday. wah! so many brands, which one not to try?!