Toyota meant for old people lahh.. read TOYOTA = ORANG TUA
old people no need powerful engine because they drive slow slow onli.. and some people buy Hilux because they want to go shopping to IKEA, hence no need high performance engine… heheeh
Btw guys, wahoo is comparing hilux with his BMW X1, 3 and 5. So can’t compare hilux with the Das Is Automobile fleet he manages lah.
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speaking strictly as a non driver and this comment is purely on the economic perception, what is the Toyota views on recent press publications that a Hilux can be easily stolen in 5minutes or less. Fitting a sophisticated anti-theft system is not possible as it voids the warranty.
This seems to be a ‘catch 23’ position which is a ‘catch 22’ but worse. Good as Hilux may be but is it worth buying only to have it stolen? the Hilux, after all had been top of the car theft list for sometime now. Fixing additional systems will void the warranty. Any ideas?
the question still begs an answer, would buying this Hi-Lux be feasible given that it is esily stolen and currently listed highest on the stolen vehicle list. There is little if any effort being taken by the manufacturer to rectify this.
Having considered your comments, there seems few reasons to buying the Hi-Lux in Malaysia. But then, the Hi-Lux is still selling very well, I am told. This brings back to the question that the local buyers having considered all the weak points but still continue to buy them. This does point to that the others being much worse.
Think of it, the Hi-Lux is not the best when it comes to mileage and maintenance as well as being theft prone. Why then is it selling that well. It cannot be solely on their adverts. Any ideas?
one possible reason may be that of pricing. the hi-lux is already on the high end on the scale. in all possibility the newer engined version may further increase the already high pricing and thus rendering it uncompetitive.
this is getting interesting, on one side are the consumers would would want the best from the product they buy. The other side looks towards the practicality and economical side of things.
specific to the vehicular trade, this same argument was actually a case study when I was in college. Then we talk of Mercedes and BMW with Audi/Jaguar as a side distraction. Back in the 80’s (yes, I was already in college back then) why would anyone in their right frame of mind would buy a Mercedes E200 when the BMW 525i is cheaper and yards ahead in quality and performance. The old E200 is not fuel injected, ugly looking and does not preforms half as well as the BMW. Yet they are many more Mercedes on the road then than BMW.
Then they are the oldtime lawyers that will not buy any car other than the totally unrealiable Jaguar or some techno guys who would buy the Audi 5S. One of my uncles actually was so impressed with the 5 cylinders engine that he bought one. It was a beautiful car and preformed excellently until it starts to be troublesome some years later.
back to the present. Our case study group has some interesting findings on the Merc and BMW matter. However that would be too lengthy to discus here to note that that there are still much more old E200 today still in good condition than there are old BMW 5 series.
I am afraid I have little respect for the comments you had reproduced. It is to my view is extremely opinionated and lacks objectivity as well as being factually incorrect in some areas, (ie there is no Range Rover Defender but there is a Land Rover Defender. If anyone does not know the difference between a Land Rover from a Range Rover should not even begin to comment on the matter. If someone cannot differentiate between a Toyota and a Lexus cannot be said to know their facts)
All these Toyota bashing leads to nowhere, in all the world of marketing of one of the world largest automobile manufacturers, aren’t they capable to best market their products? In the world of marketing, presenting the best product available does not guarantee market acceptance hence its sales. As the proverbial saying goes, " nobody will beat a path to your doorstep just as you have the best mouse trap". There are many other factors involved.
A successful marketing plan is to give the majority of consumer/purchaser what they wants. If they are satisfied with a product that is perceived to be of acceptable quality to the value for their hard earned cash, then that is what they will buy. Bear in mind, few will want the best in quality nor are they willing to pay the price, ie would you buy a Bugatti for their price? Even at the quoted price, VW is said to lose million on each unit sold.
Back to the question in hand, Toyota must had done their homework. They do know that many of the Hi-Lux buyers will want their vehicles for a specific purpose and would have also worked out how much would these buyers be willing to pay. From these data, their management would make their pricing decisions. If they had make a bad decision of either giving a very good quality product offered at too high a price or if it was decided for a low price be offered for low spec product, a marketing disaster is in the making.
Currently, the Hi-lux is selling well, so it would seems that the correct decision is made. It is basically the best compromise between acceptable pricing and product quality. Toyota could probably make a better product but then would the buyers be willing to part with more of their cash? That’s the million dollar question.
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Originally posted by zuju
T I quite subscribe to the other views that if the 3.0 VNT is priced at 107k on the road with many more features than the 2.5G, and the price of 2.5 VNT will have to come in between, which is very close to the two, then this probably will affect the sales of 3.0 VNT that carries a much higher road tax. To offer two competitive products at the same time may not be wise for Toyota. Not being in the marketing line, that is a layman's view.I understand that 3.0 VNT is selling well with long booking time. So why disturb it, ugh? I think this time it is not the consumer who would pick on the pricing, but rather Toyota does not want its hot selling product being upset.
that’s the basic fundamental to economics, supply and demand which will determine the pricing.