Where, When and How to catch more Big Game Fish

Looks like I’ve been neglecting Seafishing while posting on soft plastics for Haruan! Bro Alvin, a forummer looking for help with SP’s in the salt, hit me with “your soft plastics posts are only for Haruan”. I want to address this.

Also lots of Blue Water stuff to share after 10,000 hours running a game boat.

Trolling Strategy
Where, When and How to catch more Big Game Fish

Many fishermen troll for Big Game fish as if they were sightseeing. They put out their lures and troll from place to place in a rather haphazard manner.

If these fishermen have set their lures out properly, if their tackle is in good order and well maintained, if their crew is alert and well prepared and if they are “lucky”, they may catch a few fish this way.

The problem is, with fish so few and far between, it’s difficult to stay alert and well prepared. A haphazard approach to time on the water is usually indicative of poor tackle preparation too. The odds are stacked against success.

A systematic approach

Whilst Ujung Kulon does offer some spectacular scenery and I too enjoy being out on the water, I want to catch fish. To maximise the chances of this happening, I need a more systematic approach, rather than just “sightseeing”.

When I go out fishing, I am prepared. I have a plan and I expect to catch fish. This post isn’t about tackle preparation or the merits of certain lures over other lures. The best gear in the world can’t catch fish if they’re not there! This post is about strategy. It’s about putting myself at a place and time where fish are present, maximising the opportunity to catch them.

The importance of structure

The average sports fisherman knows that the majority of Game Fish are caught at, or near, some kind of bottom structure or underwater feature. “Hard” features like dropoffs, canyons, banks, rocks, headlands and reefs are always found in the same location and many spots become very well known. Not so well known, and not so well utilised by fishermen, are the “soft” features like tide rips, current lines and temperature breaks which form under certain conditions of wind and tide and are constantly changing and moving.

It’s a big ocean out there and all of us have experienced those long, hot, gruelling days of trolling with little or no action. Since we all know Game Fish are concentrated by underwater features, and there is lots of empty water between, it only makes sense to concentrate your trolling efforts and your precious time where the fish are concentrated. You’ll spend more time with your lures in productive water and will catch more fish.

Banks, rocks and reefs are important because they provide food and shelter for small fish. Small fish, in turn, attract larger predators. Deeper canyons and dropoffs are often associated with upwellings which bring cooler nutrient rich water into the warmer sunlit depths where plankton can bloom and start the food chain. Structures which deflect tides and currents provide feeding opportunity for minimal energy expenditure.

The same is true of tide lines, current rips and temperature breaks where two different water bodies meet. These features form a barrier, especially to smaller fish, which is as solid to them as rocks and reefs. Fish, large and small, will orient themselves to these features because of food, oxygen and temperature conditions which are to their liking.

Preparing a game plan

Armed with this knowledge of fish behaviour, we can narrow down our search and develop a strategy before we leave the dock. A map of the area to be fished is a good starting point for planning. Dropoffs, canyons, reefs and headlands with areas of deep or shallow water will all be marked.

The prevailing winds, tides and ocean currents will determine which features to concentrate on. A steep dropoff which is hit squarely by the prevailing current, causing upwelling, will fish well. A dropoff which is facing away from the current might not fish at all. A rock or reef sitting squarely in the path of currents deflected by a headland will fish much better than a reef tucked around the corner out of the main flow.

On board electronic equipment which I consider essential include a good fishfinder, preferably a colour unit, coupled to a GPS unit with a track plotter and a temperature sensor. These enable you to locate underwater structure. You will also be able to record your boats track, where you got most of your strikes and detect any water temperature changes.

Extra research prior to fishing always helps. The internet is a fantastic source of weather and ocean temperature information. Sea Surface Temperature charts are very helpful in locating rapid temperature changes which can lead to excellent fishing. Sometimes you can even get up to date catch reports.

Stay alert

Once you get to the spot you have decided to fish, you need to “tune in”. A very important tool for locating fish is your eyes. Use them for locating tide rips, colour changes, birds, floating objects and dolphins. All of these might lead you to fish. Often, you will see fish themselves, either jumping or finning. You stand a very good chance of getting a strike from a fish you have seen feeding or finning if you present your baits in the right way. Finally, while you are out on the water, other boats may guide you to fish. Listen to your radio for reports of catches.

Thinking in 3D

Knowing where structure is located is a great help, but to be successful, think in three dimensions. Interpret the structure’s layout from the sounder as the boat makes multiple passes. Try to determine what the structures effects on the currents will be, as this will determine where the fish are likely to be. Note the various high points, ledges and irregularities. Note where the fish are and their depth.

Most fish will be uptide of the structure as it is here that the current brings food. Use your sounder to locate schools of bait. Watch carefully the shape of the bait. Bait schools which suddenly ball up tightly are being attacked by predators. When this happens, you’re in the right place at the right time and you should see some action.

Time, Tide and Wind

Conditions at your chosen spot will change during the day. You need to take this into account and possibly modify your tactics at intervals.

The turn of the tide (either high or low) will be a peak feeding time, even offshore. At slack tide, fish holding over structure will rise higher in the water column, drawing with them the bigger predators. This is especially true if slack water occurs during those peak feeding times of early morning and late evening.

Rips and current lines form during periods of maximum flow. Wind blowing against the tide can enhance these features. Where both tide and wind are deflected, such as around headlands, or the tide is strong over reefs, banks and dropoffs, rough water conditions may develop. These, as we know, are some of the best places to fish.

The wind effects fish behaviour. Sometimes Marlin will be seen moving downwind, riding the swells. Tuna push the bait against the wind to help ball up their food. Make your approach to these fish to suite the varying circumstances.

Trolling

To maximise the number of fish that intercept trolled lures, I troll across the swells at an angle to the wind. Try to troll in the same direction as the current is moving so that ground speed is increased. You’ll cover more ground, your lures will look better, you’ll be more comfortable and you’ll catch more fish.

I spend lots of time trolling over bottom structure. Ujung Kulon is well endowed with many types. When fishing over structure, the interplay of wind and current will produce “sweet spots” where you’ll get all your strikes. It might surprise you how small “sweet spots” might be over bigger structures. Boats might miss by just a few yards and fail to catch. Sometimes strikes will occur while trolling in only one particular direction and at a particular speed, so it pays to experiment a bit if you know the other factors are right.

Stick to the plan

Once I have found fish, you will find me very reluctant to leave a spot. This may sound obvious, but many boats will catch a fish in one spot and then go right on sightseeing! The reason I’m at that spot in the first place is because I’ve done my homework and I think that’s where the fish of my target species will be. If I’m right, why would I want to move?

I always have alternate localities, of course, in case what I find at one spot doesn’t meet the criterion I’m looking for, but once I find the right conditions, generally I’ll only move to target another species. Sometimes, even changing target species doesn’t require a move, just a change of tactics.

The difficult part

The difficult part in all of this, is in the application. Most angler’s know what they’re supposed to do, but fail to do it. Have faith in yourself and your game plan. You won’t always get it right, but good planning will usually yield better results.

It’s said that 90% of the fish are caught by 10% of the fishermen. Get yourself in the right place at the right time and you’ll have a better chance of being on the productive side of that statistic.

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Good write up Marlin, this thread will help many bluewater anglers for sure. Landlord, this thread should be made STICKY please.


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I wrote this some time ago, but it illustrates the point. When you hit the right spot you just know you’ll catch fish!

I didn’t have client’s so I took Arimbi and the boys fishing. I wanted to do some fly-fishing from the beach at Peucang as well as some trolling, so I’d brought along the light gear and had a relaxed schedule. If the trolling was bad, we’d come ashore and fish.

Saturday was pretty calm and the water was green all the way to Ujung Kulon, so we motored all the way, not bothering to troll down as we normally would. When we hit the south coast, the breeze picked up. The water was still green, but at least it was a little choppy, to breath some life into the otherwise quiet ocean.

The only place I could find any sign of life was Sailfish Corner, offshore, along the deep drop off. There were Skipjack Tuna and lots of birds. I hoped there were some Yellowfin’s with them, so put out the Tuna Feather lures. We took a single Yellowfin Tuna but couldn’t temp anything else, so we came ashore mid afternoon and anchored off the mouth of the little tidal river opposite Peucang Island.

It was low tide and there were fish everywhere. Not big fish, but small Jacks up to a couple of pounds, feeding on small fry, which they had herded up into the mouth of the stream. There was lots of “nervous” water, with fry rippling and splashing in big dense clouds. Every few minutes they would erupt, like rain, as the Jacks came slashing into them.

They were feeding in just a few feet of water, ideal for wading and casting a fly. I had my little 6 weight outfit and I took along a 4lb spinning outfit too. I waded out and began casting my fly. Fish were all around me and long casting wasn’t necessary. Feeding frenzies erupted all around.

Could I get them to take a fly? I tried every fly in the box. Deceivers, Clousers, Whistlers, Epoxy Minnows (which looked identical to the bait, at least to me!) Crazy Charlies, Puff’s, Tarpon Flies. I tried every colour that I had and I tried small sizes and big sizes. Not a single taker!

I switched to the light spinning outfit and a small metal jig. This produced a fish a cast! They would slam it as soon as I started cranking. If the first strike didn’t hook up, just continue winding and another fish would hang on.

Back to the fly gear. I swoffed and I swoffed. I could see the fish. They were feeding literally at my feet. I tried until almost dark, until my wrist hurt with casting. I switched back to the spinning outfit and it was on again, a fish a cast. Now that’s what I call frustrating! All you long wand experts out there – what was I doing wrong?

On Sunday morning after a refreshing nights sleep in an increasing breeze, I tried again. Action was nowhere near as intense. The water had cleared overnight and fish seemed reluctant to come into the shallower water. Even the spinning gear was unsuccessful. Casting a fly was proving a bit difficult in the increasing wind. I gave it up.

About 9.00am saw Arimbi heading offshore. The sea was choppy and still greenish. I headed for Tanjung Layar. Normally with a southerly wind and tide streaming out of the Sunda Strait’s, a good tide rip develops where the Strait’s water meets the Indian Ocean. It can be rough, but there’s a good chance of a feeding fish.

Despite many boats being out over the holiday weekend, there was only one braving the choppy southern conditions, a smart looking Bertram 37. He too was trolling at Tanjung Layar. There were birds and bait everywhere. I was right about one thing, it was rough! Just watching the other boat ploughing through the seas, with spray flying everywhere, told me trolling would not be easy.

I put out rapalas first and stayed in close to the cliffs. I wanted a Tenggiri (Mackerel) and conditions looked good. Rapalas troll slow and in these seas it made for a bit more comfort. We rounded the corner and trolled south a little way from the headland. There seemed to be more birds out that way.

Just south of the point, there was the rip. A wall of breakers with relatively calm, but greenish looking water on the south side and greenish blue water on the north side. Seas were 6 feet in the rip and water was 84o F. The rip extended perpendicular to the coast, from 200ft of water, out several miles offshore, extending way out over the drop off. There were birds everywhere in the rip, dipping and diving, with the odd tell tale splash of bait.

I don’t know if you’ve ever had that feeling of utter confidence that you’ll get a Marlin, but this was one of those days. I just took one look and said to the boys, “ganti konahead” which means “change to konaheads”.

I wanted to troll along the length of the rip from shallow to deep and back again, repeatedly going over the drop, where the water goes from 250ft to 800ft in a few hundred yards. The Marlin would be coming from south to north, with the seas, travelling along the coast. Trolling perpendicular to the seas would be very uncomfortable, but would present the lures to more fish.

I set up a pattern and trolled right in the rip at around 7.5 knots, a little slower than normal, but the lures were working well enough. The wave patterns were confused in these seas, so we had to just guess at relative positions for the lures. They were all smoking well and easily visible in the wake.

For those with a technical bent, we had a purple/black something or other rubber banded to the transom on the second wave back. A green/gold Top Gun Nightmare (sorry, Peter!) was on the third wave. A blue/purple Pakula Mouse was set on the fourth wave back, and from the outriggers, a Pakula mini sprocket in lumo colour and a cockroach in yellow/green .

The other Bertram followed us into the rip, but there was room for all. He too was pulling lures. I trolled over the drop and out to deeper water, while the other boat turned early, as it was getting pretty rough out there. Water was occasionally spilling into the cockpit and spray was flying. I made the turn, headed back inshore and almost ran over a Marlin coming down the seas, exactly where I was looking. It was a nice one, easily over 100kg’s, but we were way too close and I lost sight of him under the boat. I barely had time to call it out and glance back, before it creamed the short outrigger. No messing.

I hit the gas, black diesel smoke quickly whipped away in the wind and he was on. Don’t you just live for this? I could see him broadside on in the waves, belly flashing white as he shook his head. A good fish. Lines were quickly cleared and then he fell off. No jumps, no runs, just fell off. Oh dear, what a shame, I thought!

The other boat must have seen the strike and the exhaust smoke, because they extended their troll out to the deeper water. They didn’t persist for long and soon they left us on our own in the rip. A pity, because if he’d stuck with it, he’d have scored too. We got the lures back out and hadn’t made a full circuit over the drop before we were on again. A smaller fish this time, about 40kg. He came straight up on the short lure and had a good eyeball before turning in the blink of an eye and taking the Nightmare on the short corner. In these conditions they don’t mess around! Good hookup.

I hit the gas again and he came out straight away, charging right at us, tail walking over the big seas, just yards behind the transom. There we were at 15 knots in 6 foot seas with a Marlin right behind us. I just kept going, bashing through the waves. I don’t know what would have happened without the speed and acceleration of Arimbi to work with. After that burst of power, he settled quickly and we had our first release in about 10 minutes.

Back out went the lures. A couple of circuits later and I was concentrating hard on the seas, trying to quarter the bigger ones at a comfortable angle. I saw both Harry and Sjawal jump up together. Both were looking out at the short outrigger. Harry barely had time to shout, GO!!! The long rigger lure disappeared in a big splash and we had hookup number 3.

A good fish, this one didn’t stop. We had to back down hard as he charged away, leaping away into the distance. Arimbi doesn’t back down straight at the best of times. In six foot seas and a broadside wind, I had the windward engine flat out reverse, while the leeward engine was alternating between reverse and bursts of forward to keep her straight. Every wave was bashing against the transom and the cockpit was awash. It wasn’t dry on the flying bridge. It’s hard work, it’s what skippers live for and it’s a brilliant feeling.

We had him in 20 minutes. A thick fish in the 100kg size range, still half jumping defiantly as Harry took the trace and the tag went in. He was brilliantly lit up, neon blue all over, with neon blue stripes all down its back. Easy to see how many people here in Indonesia think they have a Blue Marlin. The stiff pectoral fins are always a giveaway, but this was a very brightly coloured Black Marlin.

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Great write up Marlin. Good refreshers course for those who tend to change their strategy at the last minute… :slight_smile:

great going …,Marlin lands Marlins

wow, and if this write up had put up some picture or drawing for the spot it would be a winner.
as you can see some angler like me was never had a chance to met up with this situation(or at least never paid attention to it before) so trying imagining the location is a bit hard.

but that’s is too much to ask actually IMHO, as the write up itself is a rare thing. so maybe someones here is generous enough to contribute some spot pictures that would help me, meanwhile i just keep on reading it over and over again and keep it hard on my head until i find the spot myself.

:slight_smile: :slight_smile:

thank you

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Barang cukup? ada kaki? air cantek ? jom!

oh nevermind… found what i’m looking for in “Fishing Deep Structure”

hahah i felt silly

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Barang cukup? ada kaki? air cantek ? jom!

No problem Pens. Glad you found the stuff useful.

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TO: MARLIN

How about post some deep sea down rigger trolling ? I was so sad that my fishing friends all convert to electrical reel fisherman. Feel sad to watch that they have to over kill to get those 5kg up snapper ,grouper.GT on those reel.

thanks

Hi Sungai Buaya. Yes, I do use a downrigger for trolling. Let me see what I can come with.

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Hi Marlin, that’s an excellent writeup. Do you mind that I extract it and post it on my website to share with other anglers?

Lancer, no go ahead. Thank you for asking. Just give credit on the website is all I ask.

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hey guys, am new to this forum. wonder if u guys know any good tekong in klang? am after grouper, marlin, sailfish. big game fish.
look forward to have a trip in sept 08 (6 pax in hand)
pls write to me at bananatail@hotmail.com
cheers

enjoy fishing…han

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Originally posted by hanyee33
hey guys, am new to this forum. wonder if u guys know any good tekong in klang? am after grouper, marlin, sailfish. big game fish. look forward to have a trip in sept 08 (6 pax in hand) pls write to me at bananatail@hotmail.com cheers

enjoy fishing…han


If you are looking for sailfish & juvenile marlin, the nearest port is Rompin.


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Marlin, that is a Great post.. I will print that and read it over many times… Thanks a bunch

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Huhu.. Great posting.. especially for myself, newbaby..!!!

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i’m going to perhentian island this weekend.. with my brother & we r planning to jigging la. could u give some advise on which spots to throw our jigs and some contacts to guide us?

Hi Marlin,
I have been in Malaysia for 10 months now and have had one trip to Pekan so far and am going for three days off Penang on the 15 -17th May. My mate from South Africa came to visit for a week in the beginning of April and wants to come back for some sport fishing.
He is looking at 18-26 September 2009. Can you please advise where a good place would be to start. We would like to go to the East coast if possible.