Dear Caesar 1956,
I’m sure you are much more enlightened and somewhere up there about keeper size limits and why so many in mfn TALK about preserving the future of sport fishing & C & R bla bla bla.
I shall not even go into the part about the range of fishermen; from purely C n R, bag limits, size limits, one or two for the table, all table sized, all of everything caught.
Nor shall i go into the reason why people fish;purely for adrenaline, for sport, for fun, for food, for a subsistence or source of livelihood.
Nor will i go into what should be the cut off size aka what is the ideal level of C & R or sportfishing that one should follow
The reason is simple, like i said, you can debate and talk and argue till the cows come home or till the cheese turns blue, you would never reach a consensus simply because everyone fishes for a different reason and sets their own ideals and standards, whateer they may be. The point is, all talk and no action and getting all heated up in a forum ain’t gonna push the fishing environment and culture in the direction that you would like it to go towards. NATO, u know?
You see, that’s the problem, most only TALK about it or if they are more free, post caustic remarks on well meaning threads (well meaning aka with some purpose but which might not be towards your goal of ideal sport fishing future) and then hope that by caustic remarks, they would be able to convert everyone to conform to their OWN standards/ ideals that they hold in their mind about how C & R should be.
In a nutshell, do you seriously think that by your post of " no wonder difficult to get big groupers" you would be able to create awareness about your ideal C & R standards and convert everyone to C & R anglers who conform to the highest standards?
I’m no expert on psychology but any idiot on the street would be able to tell you that most of the time, antagonising those you want to win over ain’t gonna work. this ain’t a scenario for reverse psychology. Since you are so passionate about C & R, then go do something about it, write articles about C & R in the main media like Aznir Malek does, start a campaign like KAGUM , start up an NGO and go dog the government about new policy implementation, or get yourself involved in the kelah sanctuary angling tourism efforts. There are so many things you can do to have an impact on improving the C & R culture. Heck, even starting a thread on it may have a subliminal influence. BUt one thing for sure, interupting others thread will poorly worded remarks WILL NOT WIN PEOPLE OVER TO YOUR IDEOLOGIES. Period.
There is something known as marketing. There are also many ways to sell or state something. There are a thousand approaches to a situation. So next time you want to post something, please think through the consequences of your actions. Whether it will benefit others. Whether it will champion your cause. whether it is worded in the right tone. One can be anal, but being anal won’t get you far. Alternatively, one can also adopt the famous " softly softly" approach that is even used for fighting brutish fishes.
As to whether this problem about C & R concerns me or not, whether it does or does not, what the heck does it have to do with you? I don’t even know you. I don’t have to let you or the whole world know my personal ideals/beliefs that i make whether to keep a fish or two for my dinner or whether i release every single thing or whether i kill every single fish i catch. Again, like i said, if you are so passionate about C & R, which of course is a good thing, go do something at the top level, or if you would prefer the bottom up approach, go educate your close fishing buddies about your ideologies everytime you fish with them, i’m sure they’ll be much more vulnerable/susceptible to change from somebody they know well.it’s all about psychology.
IMHO, no major religion in the world today won over believers by talking bad about the converts former religion/ lack of religion. They either won them over subliminally over time by walking the talk or the believers saw the good in it. go think bout it over your pillow.
Lastly, thank you in that there will be no further comments from you in this thread. I would really appreciate that.
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Originally posted by caesar1956
many thanks for your reply, and sorry for the late reply but
could you please enlighten me why countries put 'keeper size limit' and why so many in mfn talk about preseving the future of sport fishing and catch n release, i know the government has not imposed any rule about keeper size limit, but that doesnt mean we cant improve the situation before the government implements any laws in this regard, its we, the anglers who have to implement it and then we can take it on a higher level
all said and done if you feel this problem doesnt concern you, then please accept my sincere apologies
truth will prevail in due time
there will no further comments from me on this thread
over and out
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