ABU baitcasting reel vs others

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Originally posted by jerryC The way I see this is an ego question. You are not looking for a BC reel that could cast 6 - 11 gram lures or the 4 - 8kg drag capability.

In fact you are looking for BC reel that could up lift your EGO that you could cast 6-11gram lure and a drag to match.

Let me break down in detail for you before you start to accuse me of sabotaging your thread.

4 - 8 kg means you have set it to 25% of the line poundage, this means you are using about 20kg lines (at least). You can obviously cast with 20lb braided line but how far can you cast it with 6 - 11gram lure with 20lb braided line?

I suggest you stop this nonsense and enjoy fishing. Just buy a decent spinning reel with 2 - 4kg line class to cast 6-11grams lures and go out and fish.

The fish will not know what reel or rods you use.


I believe for most misinformed people, drag is maximum stopping power of a reel when clamped down and hence able to reel in fish of that size, able to fish bigger than that automatically entitle them as a “PRO”[:D]

" I suggest you stop this nonsense and enjoy fishing."

Agree 100% - we hardly ever exceed the technical parameters of what we use - just have FUN and enjoy what we each have.[:)][:)][:)]

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Originally posted by jerryC
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Originally posted by spinnerlures
I'm looking for a reel which is able to cast a good distance using the 6-11 gram lure.With a 4 to 8 kg drag.

So which reel you think is capable to achieve stated requirement?

Thank you


The way I see this is an ego question. You are not looking for a BC reel that could cast 6 - 11 gram lures or the 4 - 8kg drag capability.

In fact you are looking for BC reel that could up lift your EGO that you could cast 6-11gram lure and a drag to match.

Let me break down in detail for you before you start to accuse me of sabotaging your thread.

4 - 8 kg means you have set it to 25% of the line poundage, this means you are using about 20kg lines (at least). You can obviously cast with 20lb braided line but how far can you cast it with 6 - 11gram lure with 20lb braided line?

I suggest you stop this nonsense and enjoy fishing. Just buy a decent spinning reel with 2 - 4kg line class to cast 6-11grams lures and go out and fish.

The fish will not know what reel or rods you use.


Nailing it at the head!! My ego reel would be Bantam 1000sg with Shallow spool matching with an old offset reel seat hollow fiber rod.

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ahcheong : its about 700 bucks.. almost same price as shimano scorpion stx.. =)

after using a shimano calculta 101b.. round type, im now looking into scorpion stx also.. besides that.. ryoga is definetly on the top of my list.. u won’t be happy until you get more and more and more BC reels.. lols~

ya lor…if you can afford…why not…SCORPION XT mind you…STX is for REVO…
hardcore anglers…they are willing to spend a fortune..one species…one setup…

for beginners…three basics setup oni maa…light…medium…heavy…
some anglers only had one reels…three rods to match..as being said earlier..
use the rod for leverage…reels to send out and bring in the lures plus or minus the fish

my useless opinion again…ignorance is most welcomed…

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Originally posted by hazadin
ya lor....if you can afford...why not...SCORPION XT mind you...STX is for REVO... hardcore anglers...they are willing to spend a fortune..one species...one setup...

for beginners…three basics setup oni maa…light…medium…heavy…
some anglers only had one reels…three rods to match..as being said earlier..
use the rod for leverage…reels to send out and bring in the lures plus or minus the fish

my useless opinion again…ignorance is most welcomed…


… and a line </font id=“yellow”>to connect lure and reel [:D]

talitampar

thx for correcting me there.. ahh! ! ><

Bro, revo IB it is.. =) sorry about 15kg drag.. haha ! ! ! it’s 6kilo drag.. i keep remembering 15kilo toman.. typo typo..

JerryC,

I’m not showing ego. I’m just beginner in baitcasting, and not even sure how to set a suitable setting for light lure and how high the drag is consider reasonable.

I though this forum is the best place to ask question . At least can get some personal experiences and review from others.

No more question

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Originally posted by pukau2002
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Originally posted by philmuscle
Ala bro... normal lar. Every brand got die hard fans bro. but the basic is that all these equipment are used for the sport of fishing. A reel is in basic terms....................
I wouldn't simply condemn any reel(s) without basis & mostly from my own experience. some reel(s) is/are real crap even the other models from the same manufacturer is/are like godsend.

i own & use a lot of abus and some other make/models from other manufacturer. in the case of revo PRM & SKT, it’s like what you mentioned before, made for bass. what i hate is some influential people claiming the drag is useless and cannot stop sprinting fish, but reels from competitors with the same stopping power are able to do so. this is really misleading those non-savvy fishers. but actually i like this way since it will not raise the price of abu reels like those from the other 2 manufacturers[:D][:D]

back to the PowerDisk washer, can you give me some insight of this material? is it better or worst over Carbon Matrix?


Pukau bro… of course we shouldn’t… hehehe…

About the power disk washer… I need to ask them this.

Fish & Fish yet catch & release.

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Originally posted by spinnerlures
JerryC,

I’m not showing ego. I’m just beginner in baitcasting, and not even sure how to set a suitable setting for light lure and how high the drag is consider reasonable.

I though this forum is the best place to ask question . At least can get some personal experiences and review from others.

No more question


Spinnerlures bro… If you’re based in KL or Selangor you can pop by my office anytime you’re free, Mondays to Friday from 10am to 6pm, except holidays. I can teach you how to setup and how to cast… the basics first. After that it is up to you to practice and improve.

Fish & Fish yet catch & release.

quote:
Originally posted by spinnerlures
JerryC,

I�m not showing ego. I�m just beginner in baitcasting, and not even sure how to set a suitable setting for light lure and how high the drag is consider reasonable.

I though this forum is the best place to ask question . At least can get some personal experiences and review from others.

No more question


Now that we have you back to earth. Lets look at the basis of fishing and bait casting reel.

You need to decide what is best for you to cast a 6gm lure. Sure, both spinning and baitcaster can cast the lure but the question you need to ask yourself is “how effective it is between spinning and BC”?

Many “pro” is Japan and USA carries a variety of rods and reels. They have both spinning and BC, individually setup for specific type of lure, this is determine by the effectiveness of the setup. This is the question you need to ask yourself again, how effective you want your fishing to be?

Personally I would not hesitate to pick up a 1000 series spinning reel match with a 4-6lbs rods loaded with 4lb braid to cast/fish with 6grm and lighter lures. Then again, I could also use a Calcutta Conquest 50s loaded with 6lbs with matching rods. When the winds picks up in the afternoon, where you have to cast against the wind…the determine factor will prevail.

But if I’m chucking heavier lures, BC will always be my choice but I won’t discount spinning outfits.

Bottomline is, which ever you choose, you must enjoy it and must be fishable in all condition. It is that simple… because not everyone is a casting pro!

Thanks sifu.

It is like car racing (sorry bros but I love cars). The engines are used to move the 4 wheels. The seats are basically something to sit on and support you better when you are driving. The steering wheel is used to steer the car. 4 wheels are basically to roll the car smoothly (as opposed to square wheels).

But when it comes to sports we support our own team. Like in F1 I support Ferrari. In DTM in support Audi Sports Team ABT. However in these sports there are you may have the same make of cars racing under different teams. So in the end it is the team that we are supporting.

So if someone were to tell me that Ferrari is lousy or is Audi is lousy I will not be very happy. Or if someone were to tell another person that AMG Mercedes is lousy… I think the fan of AMG will be pretty unhappy.

Ferraris, Audis, Mercedes, BMWs… they’re all good cars and teams. Really good cars and teams in fact. Why they sometimes win and sometimes lose is not because they are lousy but it could be due to technicalities, driver faults or mistakes like braking too early into a corner or too late,… or misjudgment of the crew during the race… etc.

Same like reels they are all good, modern reels. Saying that Shimano is lousy, Abu is lousy, or Daiwa is lousy will definitely make the fans unhappy because these fans supports the brand.

To me they are all good reels. Very good reels. A lot of money goes into R&D. A lot of effort goes into making these reels. Countless hours are spent trying to satisfy the supporters. None of them are lousy.

Well, some may be smoother than the other like a Honda being compared to an American car with a Hemi engine but the Hemi is macho, strong, and makes one heck of a noise… it is also freaking powerful and fast.

Some may look better than the other like the Ferraris looking better than the Nissan GTR… but the GTR can kick Ferraris ass and has done so in Nurburgring.

Some are more fragile like certain French and/or Italian cars as compared to the Japaneses, but the French and/or Italians have strong heritage and they too can really run (Peugeot did win the DTM a number of times too).

So when it comes to which is better… Shimano, Daiwa, or Abu. My answer is that they are all good, very good reels but it boils down to what you are looking for, how much you are willing to spend, and how do you want your reel to help you.

If I have mountain loads of money I would buy almost every car (almost all brands except Mitsuoka… I just cannot fall in love with it)in the world today. But I can’t because I don’t have mountain loads of cash.

But reels do not require that mountain and we are lucky in that sense that we can have all brands of reels sitting in our tackle room should we really want to buy them.

Reputable brands are a definite good buy… so to me the more appropriate question should be “should I spend a little more on reputable brands or just go with a cheap brand of reel?” Buy a Volvo S80 or buy a Proton Perdana?</font id=“size1”></font id=“brown”></font id=“Arial”>

Bro Phil,

You are fans of Top Gear too?? Hhehehehehe.. Sounds like Jezza, Hamster and “Slow”. [8D]

http://www.lubuk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6745 [:p] [:D]

http://www.lubuk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6346
http://www.tackletour.com/reviewscorpion1001xt.html [:p]

guys… any1 knows the price for this reel scorpion 1001xt ? any good compared to alphas type-r? saltwater grade? sorry noob here…

cheers

abg binjai, want to downgrade kah?

mbax

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cheers, lets eat…

scorpion 1000/1XT going for RRP rm815 or thereabouts
one MFNer got it for just below rm700 … after much haggling [:p]

digital aquarium (mr ng) in puchong perdana has one unit … can’t recall left or right retrieve …

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Originally posted by binjai
guys... any1 knows the price for this reel scorpion 1001xt ? any good compared to alphas type-r? saltwater grade? sorry noob here...

cheers


Tried this bro, compared side by side these two gladiators

http://www.fishing.net.my/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20374&whichpage=1

Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you

nice review tjs… mmm more racun now arggghhh

cheers

poison is good bro… if it didnt kill u it will only make u stronger, i’m sure it will for u hahahhahaha

Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you