Furled Leaders

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Originally posted by LaPala
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YES.. the furled leader are tapered… and knotless too..

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Originally posted by trout bum
length depends on individual preference and casting capability
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Originally posted by LaPala
Interesting topic. Does anyone of you who are using the furl leaders have any favorite length and taper to suit our local fishing conditions? What about locally available material for it? Mono, tying thread or fluro? I'm kinda bend toward tying thread with a braid or mono core, seem better suited to our "ferocius" fishes here heh heh.

From the info on the web seem a logical starting point be adopting trout tapers for our more timid species and pike/muskie tapers for our venerable Toman. What about Sebarau, something in between? Care to share your thoughts and experiments?

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YES, different individual have different style of casting and preferences over the length of the leaders…

Of course, it would be easier to cast with a shorter leader… this also boil down to the presentation of the flies. If u are hunting for tomans, PBs or other predators fish… there’s not problem using shorter leaders… as these kinda fish don’t get spooked easily!
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Originally posted by trout bum
dear fisher, i really enjoyed using the furled leaders. i've tested both 8' and 6'6" leader lengths. i'm comfortable with the 6'6" length. i want to order 4 pieces of 6'6" WT5/6 in green( similar to the ones found in Tacklebox) from u. thanks, inform me onece the item is ready .

OK.. will construct a few and will get Nick to call u when ready for collection at TBox. [:)]

By the way, have u tried out making the furled leaders from the sites I gave u? [:D]

Oh sorry fisheR I meant the taper construction, 4 stage/ 3 stage or diff number of turns each peg, taper spread % etc. What type of taper seem to give better performance/turning power or ur personal preference for our fishes here.

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Originally posted by LaPala
Oh sorry fisheR I meant the taper construction, 4 stage/ 3 stage or diff number of turns each peg, taper spread % etc. What type of taper seem to give better performance/turning power or ur personal preference for our fishes here. [url="http://longkanggang.blogspot.com/"][img]http://www.pbase.com/lapala/image/70743584/original.jpg[/img][/url] [IMG]http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/LaPala/Do_It_02.gif[/IMG]

OIC.. [:D]
I made my furled leader 4 step tapered.. 40%~30%~15%~10%~5%
This will give you a better loop… compared to 3 step tapered which I have tested..
Of course, I also have to customized my furled leader to suit heavier tippet if I am hunting for tomans.. [:p]

I dunno what other ppl thinks or how many steps tapered other ppl prefer…
Like I have said, individual preferences..
Either you love it or you hate it… in that sense, they still prefer to tie their leader the old school way… [:)]

I’m kinda bend on more steps too, but I’m no fly casting guru so not in a position to say if it did help my casting. Major benefit is no weed on my leader compared to tied ones, no knots to catch them [:D]

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lapala,

I guess Fisher has more experience on the tapper of furled leader, after all he has done different kind of tapper and material. But if you want kind of simple general purpose tapper for wt5/6, go for 3 1/2 , 2 1/2 and 1 1/2 strand 4 lb mono. For the peg you can experiment yourself as long as you can see the tapper. But for more specialize one, Fisher is the man!!

fisher,

nice meeting u for the first time at tacklebox.

Lapala
the taper configuration used by fisher is already good enough or i can say as Perfect- no need to bother what taper configuration is best. the only issue that matters to you is the leader length as it relates to your casting capability.

another advantage of furled leader compared to conventional mono tapered leader is that it’s almost memory free. mono tapered gets kink easily when the leader gets knoted by casting errors.

personally i prefer a 6’6" leader, becos it’s easier to cast as i’m an occasional flyfisher who don’t practice much casting. and a shorter leader is also easier to manage.

the only disadvantage of furled leader is by having your fly stucked on the leader itself (due to casting mistakes)and picked a strand of mono out of the leader. but the leader is still usable.

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Originally posted by trout bum
fisher,

nice meeting u for the first time at tacklebox.

Lapala
the taper configuration used by fisher is already good enough or i can say as Perfect- no need to bother what taper configuration is best. the only issue that matters to you is the leader length as it relates to your casting capability.

another advantage of furled leader compared to conventional mono tapered leader is that it’s almost memory free. mono tapered gets kink easily when the leader gets knoted by casting errors.

personally i prefer a 6’6" leader, becos it’s easier to cast as i’m an occasional flyfisher who don’t practice much casting. and a shorter leader is also easier to manage.

the only disadvantage of furled leader is by having your fly stucked on the leader itself (due to casting mistakes)and picked a strand of mono out of the leader. but the leader is still usable.


[:D] hi Trout Bum… nice meeting up too!!
I just drop by TackleBox to pass the furled leader to Nick as you walked in…
Then Nick said… there!! no need to pass to me oredi, HE’s here!! [:D][:D][:D][:D]
Just great!!

The furled leaders is great and I must thank the person who invented it!! We tested a few furled leaders at Kakilai last week. Radzi was using a 5WT furled leader (2lb base line) and have a 25lb tippet… The fly got snagged at the propeller and he had trouble breaking the line… , either the furled leader or the tippet will snap!! Guess what, the 25lb FC snapped and the furled leader twisted, but still can be use.. as good as new. [:D][:D]

i also saw your links to your multipl blog. where did u buy the okuma helios from?

Hello fisher!!!

Wah! u did the furled leader in TB.. Nice work bought 2 last month wt5/6, still using it now & it works real good.. Wonder how you have the patience to do it..Anyway, if u can make a few in various length and sizes would be better.. I think most fly fisher who use would appreciate it..

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Keep up the good work!!

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Originally posted by trout bum
i also saw your links to your multipl blog. where did u buy the okuma helios from?

[:D] Got it over the internet…
Let me know if u r interested? [:)]
Planning to let go…[;)]

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Originally posted by Razor
Hello fisher!!!

Wah! u did the furled leader in TB.. Nice work bought 2 last month wt5/6, still using it now & it works real good.. Wonder how you have the patience to do it..Anyway, if u can make a few in various length and sizes would be better.. I think most fly fisher who use would appreciate it..

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Keep up the good work!!


Hi Razor.. [:D][:D][:D] thank you for your support!! [;)]

It took me months to pick up the art of furling… [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D] alot of trial and errors… and experimenting..
Actually, anyone can do it, you’ll just need abit of time and a lot of patience… [:p][:p][:p]

Actually there are 2 different length and various sizes.
There are 6’6" and 8’ ; and 2~3wt , 4~5wt, 5~6wt even up to 8wt
Do check it out next time you drop by TackleBox [;)]

fisheR great infos, thanks. Do you use 40%~30%~15%~10%~5% in all your furled leaders? I’m contemplating one for toman on 7-8wt boat base, floating line, sinking leader, big bulky fly, roll casting to rise kinda fishing. What would be your recommendation?

My twisted logic to fish that way is an extension from lure fishing effectiveness heh heh. Toman that rise will take if the lure goes to it fast enough. So s big sinking fly to get to it, sinking leader to aid the fly going down (and control how far it’ll go down) but floating line so I won’t break my rod roll casting to another rise hehheh.

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what size is your reel. what price are u letting go? my no: 012-3283809

Hello fisher!!!

I always support local fly fishers contibuting to other fly fishers needs.. Actualy i bought 2 of various size furled leader 6’6 & 8’.. So far only used 6’6 and find it vey good to use, will use the 8’ for my next outing..

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Originally posted by LaPala
fisheR great infos, thanks. Do you use 40%~30%~15%~10%~5% in all your furled leaders? I'm contemplating one for toman on 7-8wt boat base, floating line, sinking leader, big bulky fly, roll casting to rise kinda fishing. What would be your recommendation?

My twisted logic to fish that way is an extension from lure fishing effectiveness heh heh. Toman that rise will take if the lure goes to it fast enough. So s big sinking fly to get to it, sinking leader to aid the fly going down (and control how far it’ll go down) but floating line so I won’t break my rod roll casting to another rise hehheh.

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Say… since when our brother Lapala migrated from lure to fly ler?? [:D][:D]
Yes, in normal circumstances my furled leaders are configured 40%~30%~15%~10%~5% but for our kiasu style of fly fishing , that one cannot use for heavy tippet and bulky fly!!

40%~30%~15%~10%~5% tapered is great for normal standard fly according to the specified weight of the tippet and rod. But for over size and heavy fly, I am afraid your leader would not open up with this configuration. [xx(] When I make the furled leader, I have to take into consideration of the size of the butt of your fly line and the size of the tippet which you are planning to use.
I did customized 2 FC furled leaders for Riki for his previous Kenyir trip.. his furled leader was really heavy… 30lb tippet!!
For heavy tippet, I would suggest you to use a 3 steps taper configuration.. the furled leader will still open up nicely due to the heavy tippet and bulky fly.. [:D][:D] Hi, maybe you can check with Riki on his customised FC furled leader.. [;)]

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Originally posted by trout bum
what size is your reel. what price are u letting go? my no: 012-3283809

This reel is for 5/6 wt..

  • Maintenance free waterproof drag system.
  • Multi-disk cork and stainless steel drag washers.
  • Roller bearing engages drag in one direction.
  • 2BB + 1RB stainless steel bearing drive system
  • Precision machined stainless steel spool shaft.
  • Anodized aluminum Machined Rigid Frame.
  • Machined aluminum large arbor spool design.
  • Non-slip positive grip rubberized handle knobs.
  • Easily converted from right- to left-hand retrieve

Line # 5-6
Backing - 130 yds 20lb
Berat 5.3 oz
Diameter spool 3-1/2 inches

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sms u the price oredi..

Hello fisher..

Nice reel!!! What price r u selling it..

Trout bum i think it will be nice with ur TFO rod..

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Originally posted by Razor
Hello fisher..

Nice reel!!! What price r u selling it..

Trout bum i think it will be nice with ur TFO rod..

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