Shallow Spool = Cast Further???

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distance is important but accuracy and control is more important bro.. it is useless if you can cast 100 meters but then you did not have accuracy.

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cheers, lets eat…

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OK. Let’s make this simple, you cast where you think there is fish. Not where you think there is fish that is far or even far far away. Casting relatively long range can be easy compared to controlling your cast to achieve accuracy, which is more important in most cases. Personally, most of my personal best fish are call caught from short range casts of just a few meters. Forget about all those hard to reach faraway spots. concentrate on what you think is realistic and achievable [;)]

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Originally posted by knht
quote:
Originally posted by Gerard
This is the same problem face by car lovers. All cars have no problem, until the owner wants more speed. Salty stage as the name applies, meant to do salt water kind off presentation. The brakes are build for negotiating strong wind

ya, strongest enemy for baitcasters is not the obstacles in the casting environment such as low hanging tree, narrow space n etc, but WIND…

Not really… in capable hands, a baitcasting reel is a very capable piece of equipment. You can pitch, flip, roll, skip, lob and do all sorts. Don’t think a spinning reel is as versatile. but, off course, to be a complete fishermen, you need to embrace both spinning and baitcasting tackle techniques [;)]

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quote:
Originally posted by fishingboy
Not really... in capable hands, a baitcasting reel is a very capable piece of equipment. You can pitch, flip, roll, skip, lob and do all sorts. Don't think a spinning reel is as versatile. but, off course, to be a complete fishermen, you need to embrace both spinning and baitcasting tackle techniques [;)]

Yup, that’s why I always want to follow experienced kaki to see and learn how they overcome the various challenging environment. There is only so much we can read from the net but nothing beats seeing with our own eyes.

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knht Posted - 04/07/2011 : 08:28:53

quote:Originally posted by fishingboy

Not really... in capable hands, a baitcasting reel is a very capable piece of equipment. You can pitch, flip, roll, skip, lob and do all sorts. Don't think a spinning reel is as versatile. but, off course, to be a complete fishermen, you need to embrace both spinning and baitcasting tackle techniques

Yup, that’s why I always want to follow experienced kaki to see and learn how they overcome the various challenging environment. There is only so much we can read from the net but nothing beats seeing with our own eyes.

So by all means, pls organize one to go see.. Hahahahahaha… Cheers..

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Force to Work.

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one thing from my experience in baitcasting…

Typical scenario faced every trip

  1. how well do you know your reel?
  2. some ppl put mags at “0”..to cast far, but wat about consistency? if wind come die lor?
  3. Comfortable casting.. not much fiddling with the settings but can cast any range of lures in your box
  4. Zero backlash
  5. Speed casting, or gun slinging action. boiling but can u hit within 1/2 secs?
  6. Most annoying is line dig in at 50% of your cast because of minor wind or lousy line collecting water(most faced problem)
  7. ppl using my setup and cannot cast, but i use other ppl’s setup i can cast better than him scenario
  8. wat is the best setting for mags/brakes?
  9. the right casting momentum achievable
  10. rod angles and whips. are you casting correctly?

with these few pointers, i m sure you guys can go figure wat works best for your situation. wat kind of casting you feel most suits your style? does it matter if it is right or wrong?

with all these questions figured out, i m sure the angler will be a better caster. for more information kindly pm “Master G” or Shifu TJS for live demo

kill the friggin’ netters

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Thanks sifu.. Noted very very well.[8D]

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Force to Work.

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Hooi, get in contact with firetiger and wait patiently for fishingboy’s return of the Jedi.

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Hi Bro Gerard, Noted.. Now in the process to be LKG member.. Hahaha.. So can check with Bro Firetiger edi.

Bro Fishing boy, faster come back… Hhahahahaha…[:D][:p][8D][:)][:0][:p][:)][:D]

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Live to Fish,
Force to Work.

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very true …

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Originally posted by wusharox ... Typical scenario faced every trip

  1. how well do you know your reel? still getting to know mah gear</font id=“teal”>

  2. some ppl put mags at “0”..to cast far, but wat about consistency? if wind come die lor? nuh-uh … mine’s centri, so 3-on, 3-off and adjust cast control clutch/spool tension knob to accommodate diff lures</font id=“teal”>

  3. Comfortable casting.. not much fiddling with the settings but can cast any range of lures in your box mostly … but if one lure’s 27g and another is 9g, then must adjust … with adjustment, almost nil backlash/overruns; if without, more overruns when using lighter stuff</font id=“teal”>

  4. Zero backlash little or nominal … personally, quite acceptable for me since i’ma newbie</font id=“teal”>

  5. Speed casting, or gun slinging action. boiling but can u hit within 1/2 secs? still settling in … ain’t reached here yet</font id=“teal”>

  6. Most annoying is line dig in at 50% of your cast because of minor wind or lousy line collecting water(most faced problem) WORD! line snapped and lure went airborne twice when employing harder overhand/overhead casts - no problems with pitching or side casts. avoidable for now with gentle overhand casts … distance a little reduced, accuracy seems (marginally) better</font id=“teal”>

  7. ppl using my setup and cannot cast, but i use other ppl’s setup i can cast better than him scenario ain’t graduated here yet …</font id=“teal”>

  8. wat is the best setting for mags/brakes? very subjective …</font id=“teal”>

  9. the right casting momentum achievable me lost here …</font id=“teal”>

  10. rod angles and whips. are you casting correctly? see 1. and 6. above [:D]</font id=“teal”>

… wat kind of casting you feel most suits your style? does it matter if it is right or wrong?
side casts are easiest, achieving most distance without a single overrun … learning to factor accuracy. don’t matter if it produces desired results, however, “right” techniques should provide desired results more consistently, other factors reamining unchanged</font id=“teal”>

kill the friggin’ netters

my 2 cents: if you wanna throw light lures, better get dedicated reels like pixy, core, curado - no idea bout round reels, tho, apart from calcuttas/conquests … i’ll stick with mah spinners for light stuff
tried out RK’s curado 50e last Sat (thanks, RK) … nice, light, reasonable distance with light lures, not easy to beehoon … star drag has microclick! [:D]

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glad u can fill in some answers. basically its more to self exploring and seeing how you can “copy” the other guys technique to improve on yours.

also be more “in-the-field” to gain more experience. i got a newbie fren learning to cast in paypond .. dam champion! but went to “real-life” situation screw-up big time! first cast … beehoon took me 2 hours to open for him. total that day 3 big birds nest. teruk man i kena… he beg me to open it for sake of breaking in the conquest.

lesson of the day!! dont be too ambitious unless u really sure u can take the pressure on the helm. the spotlight is on u. i told my newbie fren(the same guy) to take it easy and cast at the back of the boat(a trip in Belum) and just do his thing. dont kacau me or hook me can already. end-ed up him being the champion with a record 7.5kg toman on popper on his first ever trip to dams. Master G can attest to that!

acheong - u can try to use 2 brakes instead. much better distance
question 9) do whip or cast smoothly?

kill the friggin’ netters

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quote:
Originally posted by Gerard
Hooi, get in contact with firetiger and wait patiently for fishingboy's return of the Jedi.

http://Torkingdom.wordpress.com
http://oldschooltacklebox.wordpress.com/

Haha! Return of the Jedi! Hahaha!
To unite with the Jedi kaki here like Master G and Firetiger is it?

Hooi, got a lot of Master Jedi around. They just don’t say much. So you don’t notice them. After all, that’s the Jedi way.

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thanks, wusha
agree it’s very much getting to know one’s gear and finding one’s limitations, explore [:D]

tow foo’s the only paypond where i practise casting while waiting for fish to bite … wide and open, nice … so, no problems
otherwise, pretty much in the field …but nil jungle or cramped spots that’ll test me
paypond or field it’s the same
wow, newbie with conquest … ! salute [8D]

wahahahahah … ! similar to wot mah sifu sez: dont kacau me or hook me can already.
holy guacamole! if only we can get 7.5kg tomans on every first trip [:p]

will try out 2 brakes, wusha, thanks
casting seems smooth enough to me … can apply more whip/force when side casting - no probs at all
overhead casts MUST be smooth, no whipping … otherwise, when casting harder, easier for spool to overrun and/or line to dig in and then hear the line snap and see my lure fly
i find i must lift thumb off spool much earlier for overhand casts
working on consistency
thanks again, bro

Hooi, sorry bro, has become BC class adi [:I]

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Lolxx.. No problem la bro AC… Since this is BC problem as well ma.. [:D]

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