Hi Guys,
Wanna ask this question? Does all LPBC or BC with shallow spool tend to cast further?? How about those reel with deep spool? Does we need some light weight thing to “lapik” the deep spool?? Any advice?? Thanks.
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theoritically yes as there is less force needed to move the spool.
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Ic.. But any evidence that using deep spool also can cast far, using light lure? Any modification needed? Or just buy another reel?
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shallow spool = easier to cast lighter lures
since like wat mbax said, lesser force needed to start up the spool, which is crucial if the lure is light
contrary to popular belief, heavier spool with correct sized bait can also cast very far, as momentum build up within the spool are retained longer by the weight of the spool, which a shallow(lighter) spool couldnt
at least tats wat i’ve read, correct me if i’m wrong.
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Oooo.. Thanks for the info. Just feel my Salty Stage spool too deep.. Feel like wanna find something light enuf to fill the gap… Since using baitcaster will not always use until 100m line, anyone here try something before?? For spinning, I will use masking tape to fill the gap, but find it quite heavy. Thought of using mono as backing, but still need to clean as well.. Hmmm… Thinking hard now…
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Originally posted by Hooi
Oooo.. Thanks for the info. Just feel my Salty Stage spool too deep.. Feel like wanna find something light enuf to fill the gap... Since using baitcaster will not always use until 100m line, anyone here try something before?? For spinning, I will use masking tape to fill the gap, but find it quite heavy. Thought of using mono as backing, but still need to clean as well.. Hmmm..... Thinking hard now...
bro, not sure what is the problem with your casting using salty stage n what distance u get. A fren of mine who is using conquest 51 n no problem with casting distance, but he is struggling with his salty stage orra (is yours the same reel or salty stage revo?) in terms of casting distance…just sharing. i guess it’s the reel design…
This is the same problem face by car lovers. All cars have no problem, until the owner wants more speed.
Salty stage as the name applies, meant to do salt water kind off presentation. The brakes are build for negotiating strong wind
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Hi all sifu, I just want to cast without using much force.. As Bro Gerard advice, Salty Stage bc is design to use on both water, fresh and salt. So, I understand the spool also design to withstand saltwater too. Just feel that this reel need to use some force to cast out light lure in order to acheive some distance. But as usual, birdnest happen. So, thinking of reducing the line poundage and using lighter and softer rod, maybe can cast well. But if using lighter line, since the spool is deep, I need some backing line or “lapik” something to close the gap right? But, feel like buyinig another lighter reel can close this issue once for all..Hmmmm
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Actually, it’s not about the distance. trust me. it’s about ‘control’ and ‘accuracy’. Long casts do sometimes help you to get a lure to those long range spots and they might not necessarily hold fish. Also, the further you cast, and if you happen to work your lure all the way back to the bank or boat on every cast, you’re actually covering a lot of dead water. hence, it’s not really that efficient if you get what I mean [;)]
Back to your question, laying lots of backing onto a normal (deep spool) actually helps the reel to achieve slightly longer casts (i.e. you essentially improve your radial distance to achieve better linear displacement). But depending on what you use as backing, it would add weight to the spool, thereby increasing the start up inertia. Hence, in other words, if you using heavy material as backing, the results can be detrimental. Backing up can actually cost you the distance you’re looking for. so, you have to weigh up the possibilities.
the other thing to consider is the main line. The type of line also plays an important part if you wish to improve on casting distance. Generally, thinner lines casts better with lighter lures and vice versa.
Also, whichever reels you use, it has to be paired with the right rod. So, my advice would be, don’t worry about not achieving long distance. work on control and accuracy to start with and as time goes and when you’ve build up experience, long casts is just comes a second nature [;)]
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quote:
Originally posted by Gerard
This is the same problem face by car lovers. All cars have no problem, until the owner wants more speed. Salty stage as the name applies, meant to do salt water kind off presentation. The brakes are build for negotiating strong wind
ya, strongest enemy for baitcasters is not the obstacles in the casting environment such as low hanging tree, narrow space n etc, but WIND…
Thank you all. It clear my mind.. Actually, feel like wanna go cast with all the sifus. At least I can learn something.. Who plan for that?? Bro fishingboy, I know your from Kulim.. Hahahahahahha…
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quote:
Originally posted by fishingboy
Actually, it's not about the distance. trust me. it's about 'control' and 'accuracy'. Long casts do sometimes help you to get a lure to those long range spots and they might not necessarily hold fish. Also, the further you cast, and if you happen to work your lure all the way back to the bank or boat on every cast, you're actually covering a lot of dead water. hence, it's not really that efficient if you get what I mean [;)]Back to your question, laying lots of backing onto a normal (deep spool) actually helps the reel to achieve slightly longer casts (i.e. you essentially improve your radial distance to achieve better linear displacement). But depending on what you use as backing, it would add weight to the spool, thereby increasing the start up inertia. Hence, in other words, if you using heavy material as backing, the results can be detrimental. Backing up can actually cost you the distance you’re looking for. so, you have to weigh up the possibilities.
the other thing to consider is the main line. The type of line also plays an important part if you wish to improve on casting distance. Generally, thinner lines casts better with lighter lures and vice versa.
Also, whichever reels you use, it has to be paired with the right rod. So, my advice would be, don’t worry about not achieving long distance. work on control and accuracy to start with and as time goes and when you’ve build up experience, long casts is just comes a second nature [;)]
My fishing site @ http://thefishingboy.blog138.fc2.com
another thing if you don’t mind me adding bro
nowadays casting distance has been improved dramatically. actually do we need the distance? I’m quite a junkie for distance, but i have to admit there’s shortcoming in such long cast!
besides everything fb bro had mentioned above, i add 1 crucial one. Let say u cast very far, wat’s the hook up rate? By the time the bite transmitted to ur fingertip the fish might had already spit out the lure before u strike! For that kinda distance also a lot of obstacle will be along the way. You cant see underwater snag tat far… for far i mean 30metres+ or over 100 feet.
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
Hi all sifu, I just want to cast without using much force.. As Bro Gerard advice, Salty Stage bc is design to use on both water, fresh and salt. So, I understand the spool also design to withstand saltwater too. Just feel that this reel need to use some force to cast out light lure in order to acheive some distance. But as usual, birdnest happen. So, thinking of reducing the line poundage and using lighter and softer rod, maybe can cast well. But if using lighter line, since the spool is deep, I need some backing line or “lapik” something to close the gap right? But, feel like buyinig another lighter reel can close this issue once for all..Hmmmm
Born to Cast,
Live to Fish,
Force to Work.
Actually, it’s not about the distance. trust me. it’s about ‘control’ and ‘accuracy’. Long casts do sometimes help you to get a lure to those long range spots and they might not necessarily hold fish. Also, the further you cast, and if you happen to work your lure all the way back to the bank or boat on every cast, you’re actually covering a lot of dead water. hence, it’s not really that efficient if you get what I mean [;)]
Back to your question, laying lots of backing onto a normal (deep spool) actually helps the reel to achieve slightly longer casts (i.e. you essentially improve your radial distance to achieve better linear displacement). But depending on what you use as backing, it would add weight to the spool, thereby increasing the start up inertia. Hence, in other words, if you using heavy material as backing, the results can be detrimental. Backing up can actually cost you the distance you’re looking for. so, you have to weigh up the possibilities.
the other thing to consider is the main line. The type of line also plays an important part if you wish to improve on casting distance. Generally, thinner lines casts better with lighter lures and vice versa.
Also, whichever reels you use, it has to be paired with the right rod. So, my advice would be, don’t worry about not achieving long distance. work on control and accuracy to start with and as time goes and when you’ve build up experience, long casts is just comes a second nature [;)]
My fishing site @ http://thefishingboy.blog138.fc2.com
quote:
Originally posted by Gerard
This is the same problem face by car lovers. All cars have no problem, until the owner wants more speed. Salty stage as the name applies, meant to do salt water kind off presentation. The brakes are build for negotiating strong wind
ya, strongest enemy for baitcasters is not the obstacles in the casting environment such as low hanging tree, narrow space n etc, but WIND…
Thank you all. It clear my mind.. Actually, feel like wanna go cast with all the sifus. At least I can learn something.. Who plan for that?? Bro fishingboy, I know your from Kulim.. Hahahahahahha…
Born to Cast,
Live to Fish,
Force to Work.
quote:
Originally posted by fishingboy
Actually, it's not about the distance. trust me. it's about 'control' and 'accuracy'. Long casts do sometimes help you to get a lure to those long range spots and they might not necessarily hold fish. Also, the further you cast, and if you happen to work your lure all the way back to the bank or boat on every cast, you're actually covering a lot of dead water. hence, it's not really that efficient if you get what I mean [;)]Back to your question, laying lots of backing onto a normal (deep spool) actually helps the reel to achieve slightly longer casts (i.e. you essentially improve your radial distance to achieve better linear displacement). But depending on what you use as backing, it would add weight to the spool, thereby increasing the start up inertia. Hence, in other words, if you using heavy material as backing, the results can be detrimental. Backing up can actually cost you the distance you’re looking for. so, you have to weigh up the possibilities.
the other thing to consider is the main line. The type of line also plays an important part if you wish to improve on casting distance. Generally, thinner lines casts better with lighter lures and vice versa.
Also, whichever reels you use, it has to be paired with the right rod. So, my advice would be, don’t worry about not achieving long distance. work on control and accuracy to start with and as time goes and when you’ve build up experience, long casts is just comes a second nature [;)]
My fishing site @ http://thefishingboy.blog138.fc2.com
another thing if you don’t mind me adding bro
nowadays casting distance has been improved dramatically. actually do we need the distance? I’m quite a junkie for distance, but i have to admit there’s shortcoming in such long cast!
besides everything fb bro had mentioned above, i add 1 crucial one. Let say u cast very far, wat’s the hook up rate? By the time the bite transmitted to ur fingertip the fish might had already spit out the lure before u strike! For that kinda distance also a lot of obstacle will be along the way. You cant see underwater snag tat far… for far i mean 30metres+ or over 100 feet.
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
Hmmmm.. How about if there’s fish boiling in front of you, but the distance is quite far?? Still, you need to cast to the spot right?? If you paddle, walk, jump, motor, run, swim, bla-bla-bla…, the fish sure will run away right? So we still need our trusty tackle to able cast until those spot to lure the fish.. Hmmmm… [:0]
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out of curiosity … how far is far for you, bro?
and how light is the lure that you wanna cast that distance?
and hypothetically speaking, how far away is the fish boiling? [:D]
No idea of how far leh, since I never have chance to see fish boiling.. hehehe.. just curious nia.. Btw, I have 2 g lure, can cast but not so far.. anything 4g and above is good to me..
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