Thread to seek Bro Marlin's help on SP

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Thomas,
True the method is individual choice and those which gets the most fish. Thanks for clearifying your method. Try and expremented with it. Execellent when working it in snaggy areas, hence it came out easily. Infact today I used both method the ones with the snap broke when the bujuk pulled it into the weeds bed and branches when I lose the fish, when I tried to retrived my SP. After that I tried the one with the brubaker knot, amazingly I retrieved it more easily when snagged. I know now that the method with the snap works well with clean or less snaggy place and the brubaker knot type is more suitable for snaggy area.
Marugo,
Thanks for sharing your methods. Caught my first bujuk on SP today, 3 haruan and several misses. Too shy to mention the size and net even table size.



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.

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Tried out for the first time today and execellent working it along snaggy areas. It come out easily when snagged. Manage to get my first bujuk trying it and 3 haruans.

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Originally posted by afro_d

Bro,

I tend to use SPs that require the same size EWG hooks when I fish SPs these dayse. Therefore I do not have to retie the hook when I change the lure. Superflukes, Sluggos and Powerbait Minnows of around 4-5 inches.

On the other hand, if what I am using is not working and I feel that changing to grubs or jigheads, then I cut and retie. Usually I fish with a long leader of 1 meter or more so I can cut and tie easily. Try out that knot. Very easy to tie. Takes me less than 30 seconds to tie it (if my hands not shaking from excitement lah[:p]).

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Originally posted by jaswon
afro d 10q But that still doesn't answered to my question, hassle changing SP, would you advice is it good to pre tie a few SP direct first then attach to a swivel?



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.

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Marlin,

have been fishing with SP for haruan and proven very effective [:)], thanks for sharing all the advise and tips

what is your comment on Senko SP rigged weedless on EWG hook ?
which colour is generally most effective for haruan/bujuk ?
how best to ‘work’ Senko SP if rigged weedless for haruan ?

i normally fish on land and snaggy area, so rigging Senko SP wacky-style would not be idael - am i right ?

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This is catch by SP’s given from Bro Marlin during the talk..my bujuk n bro Maguro haruan..tq for the all tips bro Marlin..[;)]

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I normally rig my senkos using an EWG offset worm hook and they will sink horizontally when rigged this way. The best retrieve method is don’t!!! Just let them sink in place. An occasional twitch as they sink is about all you need to do. You can also retrieve them with short gentle lifts of the rod, but you should include plenty of pauses.

Colour wise, I find the natural colours the best and I particularly like smoke, smoke glitter, black, black glitter and watermelon colours. In heavily peat stained water try black or motor oil.

Wacky rigging is only really an option in relatively snag free situations, although since you are fishing pretty much stationary with just twitches, you don’t need a big space to do it. You can use ordinary hooks for this and the ones with a fine wire weed guard are ideal to give some snag proofing.

I recommend not using a snap, even a small one because it affects the balance of your soft plastics when fished in freefall. If you have not noticed a difference when using a snap, you’re still not fishing slow enough or with enough pauses. You’ll still catch fish, but a retrieve with pauses can be deadly and you’ll want to get rid of any additional nose weight for this. A snap also takes away a little feel when fishing freefall as bite will often be very gentle and I just don’t like a snap in the chain to take away the direct link with the bait. Also a snap, especially a large one, will snag more than if you don’t use one.

When working plastics in very snaggy areas, work them gently and slowly over snags. By jiggling the rod tip, you can get the plastic to jiggle through trees, bushes, pretty much anything as long as you are gentle.

I’m like Danny (Afro D) in that I use different plastics on the same hook if I can get away with it, and just swap over without retying. If you are careful with your plastic, it will not damage it too much pulling it off the hook and you can always use a hot knife to seal the hook holes if you want. Soft Plastics are very cheap anyway and to some extent are disposable. I use a leader of around 6ft which will last me all day, even when I’m frequently trimming it back and re tying my rig. I”ll put on a new leader when it gets down to 3 ft or so and always put on a new leader at the end of each days fishing.

Good shots of some nice fish being caught on sp’s guys! Keep them coming!

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Marlin, thks again for the tips

will give it a go but still cant understand why the fish will take something practically with no action, smell, vibration and sound since we are retriving sooooo slow and lotssss of pause

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quote:
Originally posted by ikanbilis
Marlin, thks again for the tips

will give it a go but still cant understand why the fish will take something practically with no action, smell, vibration and sound since we are retriving sooooo slow and lotssss of pause</font id=“red”>

bro ikan bilis..
guna sp ni x semestinya bergantung kepada bau..aksi..or bunyi yg dihasilkan..setiap sp mempunyai ciri2 tersendiri…klau setakat kita baling pastu tarik kita cuma bergantung kepada nasib..tp kita mesti membantu sp tersebut bergerak dgn lebih efektif..itu sbb kita msti fikirkan mcm mana ikan akan berminat dgn sp kita..cara persembahan bergantung kepada kita sebenarnya..bnyak pergerakan yg kita hasilkan mungkin kadar ikan menangkap umpan kita lebih tinggi..so bukan mudah sebenarnya menggunakan sp ni..kena ade skill..pelbagaikan skill kita..insyaallah kalau ade rezeki kita akan bernasib baik..[;)]

p/s: saya pon bukan mahir sgt guna sp ni..masih lagi cuba dan mencuba..cuma dari penerangan yg diberikan oleh Marlin semasa Kagum Talk haritu saya lebih jelas apa yg dimaksudkan olehnya..sorry kerana saya reply dlm bahasa melayu..sbb x pndai nak reply dlam bahasa inggeris..

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Hi Torex,
You were given a special designed bait that caught a same designed fish. This photos is very nicely taken and unique.

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Jaswon Bro. Congrats!!!

Torex… lu power lah

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Originally posted by jaswon
Tried out for the first time today and execellent working it along snaggy areas. It come out easily when snagged. Manage to get my first bujuk trying it and 3 haruans.
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Originally posted by afro_d
Bro,

I tend to use SPs that require the same size EWG hooks when I fish SPs these dayse. Therefore I do not have to retie the hook when I change the lure. Superflukes, Sluggos and Powerbait Minnows of around 4-5 inches.

On the other hand, if what I am using is not working and I feel that changing to grubs or jigheads, then I cut and retie. Usually I fish with a long leader of 1 meter or more so I can cut and tie easily. Try out that knot. Very easy to tie. Takes me less than 30 seconds to tie it (if my hands not shaking from excitement lah[:p]).

quote:
Originally posted by jaswon
afro d 10q But that still doesn't answered to my question, hassle changing SP, would you advice is it good to pre tie a few SP direct first then attach to a swivel?



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.

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bro maguro..
that’s reject pic..the good one already sent to rod ranger..[:D]

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Originally posted by afro_d

Torex… lu power lah

mana ade power la..u lg power..sorry sbb x dpt join u last week..this week i balik kg..klau i free another week boleh la kita pg mncing sama2..

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Bro Torex, nice catches.

Have you any more pics of the top one, the spotted one? Is it bujuk?

(interesting [or not] is how similar the plastic colour is to the fish colour)

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Originally posted by Fizzy
Bro Torex, nice catches.

Have you any more pics of the top one, the spotted one? Is it bujuk?

(interesting [or not] is how similar the plastic colour is to the fish colour)

bro fizzy..
yup!!..that one is bujuk..i have another pic..but cant post here..hehe

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Marlin,
Thanks mate well advised, note taken shall try to fish more using your kind of leader, rigging, hook usage.
afro d,
Thanks



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.

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Ikanbilis, you have to have faith! It’s exactly the subtle action that an SP has in freefall or when fished very, very slowly that makes it attractive to fish. The senko is a perfect example. It’s probably also the reason that many strikes are very gentle. If you watch your SP in the water, if it’s properly rigged and balanced with the correct size hook or jig head, you’ll see it does have some action, more than enough for a fish to think it’s food. In free fall, the senko wobbles or wiggles it’s tail and looks exactly like a small fish. One of the things I demonstrated at the KAGUM talk was that with a tight line to your plastic sitting in my demo aquarium, you cannot keep it still even if you try very hard. Even your own heartbeat wiggles the rod and is transmitted down the GSP line giving the plastic some action.

Many plastics are scented and or salted or can have scent added in the form of a spray or bottle. In fact GULP, soft baits are actually made of real “food” and are very smelly! All plastics also feel like the real thing, unlike a hard body lure which is, well, sort of hard!

SP’s are not as “bland” as you might think. They obviously work!

Torex’s bujuk shot reminds me again to tell all you guys out there to step up the size of your plastics! That’s a 5" bait there and even the little guys will have a go at these bigger baits.

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another pic of bujuk with sp’s…


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torex,
Very nice & well done.



Feeding fish if not get any on rod and line, let them grow bigger to fish another day.

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Bro Torex you are really an expert in catching snakeheads …

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Marlin,

i have growing faith and confidence in using SP since i apply the finesse technic and are very please with the result, thks again

just cant figure out why it work - sort of like trying to break the code [:)]

when the haruan takes the SP on its subtle action on freefall, am i right to say that placing the SP at the right place is important especially in stain water where visibility is very low (wonder how good is the haruan’s eye-sight??[:)]),
or does the haruan strike when they pick up those subtle vibration/disturbance of SP, or both ??

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Hi Ikanbilis,

You have numerous options with Soft Plastics to cater for various conditions. The modular nature of soft plastics where you select both the type and colour of plastic and you select a hook or jig head with a particular type of presentation in mind gives you enormous flexibility. So much so that it can in fact become confusing at times.

In stained water like peat bogs which are still clear, finesse techniques involving free fall presentations will still work, but select a darker coloured plastic, such as smoke, black or motor oil. This gives a better silhouette for the fish to see, but they will still be able to track the plastic by sight and subtle presentations are still effective.

In muddy water, you’ll need brighter colours and a more aggressive or noisy plastic fished more aggressively. I’d choose something with a paddle tail or an aggressive ribbon tailed plastic that creates vibration and sound to increase its appeal and work it more briskly. You can also add rattles. Or fish a plastic like you would a top water presentation, working across the surface creating more noise that way. I have caught fish on plastics in quite dirty water, but SP’s are at their best in clear to marginal conditions. When the water turns to Teh Tarik, you might consider other methods which generate more noise and vibration, like a rattling hard body, or fish a soft plastic as a spinner bait trailer or fish a paddle tail plastic just like you would work a hard body.

You can fish plastics actively to cover plenty of water, but you can also fish plastics “static” in those spots where you think a fish may be holding. I tend to fish a combination approach where I present my plastics over and across likely looking areas and will let the plastic fall in place if there’s a weed edge of a grass tussock or branch or something that might hold a fish. If I don’t get bit, I lift up and move the plastic a few feet and let it sink again. You can cover lots of potential fish holding areas very effectively using these methods or a combination of methods. You don’t have to stick with an in place presentation, or a retrieve presentation. You can combine both.