from my experience bro, sometime you need the field and proper measurement tools to check out what distance you regularly achieved rather than simply said that you think you did cast till or more than etc 150m. Start with overheadcast then later try the unitechcast this two was the simpliest/less effort technique.
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leadhunter,
I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
To all the surf casting sifus here may I know how do you maintain your reel after every outing at the beach/shore/jetty since your line is soaked wet with sea water which mean there is a high tendency your reel will get rusted. TQ
Hi Ah Tee,
I normally use multiplier reels for my surf fishing namely abu, daiwa and shimano reels and these reels are specially made to withstand salt water, most decent reels are…unless you soaked them in the sea water which is definitely a no no!
I on the other hand use nylon lines so it is much easier to maintain. I will usually wash the reels thoroughly with tap water immediately after the ishing sessions, rinse and wipe to dry.
Basically that’s it and has no rust problems so far.
MSC
quote:
Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
Greetings,
to all the sifus.. would like to too as planning to take kids fishing both freshwater and seaside. Getting too stressed staying at home 
[:D]
quote:
Originally posted by kevinlwquote:
Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
Greetings,
to all the sifus.. would like to too as planning to take kids fishing both freshwater and seaside. Getting too stressed staying at home
sorry[:I] I mean I would like to know too as I need to get out of the house more often in the weekends.[:D]
quote:
Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
hmmm, hard to say la bro, but would suggest you to add some more RM to make it below RM200 budget as what i known there’s no surf rod that in below RM100 is really worth to have one.BTW take a look at Surecatch Prokat or rod that have a fibreglass and carbon combination as it harder to broke.About beehoon, if you set the reel properly and having more time to practice how to use it, for sure it will be easy for you later.
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Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
YUp, for fishing, just buy whatever tackles U comfort with. Especially U just begining to learn. Most important is learn to cast it smoothly so that U will like it. No point of buying branded tackle and U can’t cast it.
FYI, I use the lower end tackle also. Most of my tackle are second hand one. So far the most expencive one is the Shimano Torium 20 which I bought recently at S$170.00.(second hand). Others are all below a hundred sing dollar each and I had no problem of it landed big fish.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.
quote:
Originally posted by Shoreanglerquote:
Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
YUp, for fishing, just buy whatever tackles U comfort with. Especially U just begining to learn. Most important is learn to cast it smoothly so that U will like it. No point of buying branded tackle and U can’t cast it.
FYI, I use the lower end tackle also. Most of my tackle are second hand one. So far the most expencive one is the Shimano Torium 20 which I bought recently at S$170.00.(second hand). Others are all below a hundred sing dollar each and I had no problem of it landed big fish.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.
Bro SA,
Very sori can’t agreed with ur statment here. Low end tackles as for the rod it is ok to go for Chicken brand or Cap Ayam but what about if the angler going a multiplier reel. Most low budget multiplier are applicable for surf, good e.g PENN Surf Master. Even a experience surf angler had a hard time handling this pig.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
Bro leadhunters & shoreangler…you mean have to budget about RM400 (max) for a reasonable shore/surf fishing rod & reel set up?
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Originally posted by BroOnnquote:
Originally posted by Shoreanglerquote:
Originally posted by Wirakl
leadhunter,I’ve just walked into TCE shop near my house yesterday and saw some surf casting rod RM80+ below RM100. I’m not trying to be cheapskate but will these work? I’m just planning for beach fishing and not into something like distance competition. Maybe later not sure. I’m still very worried about char bee hoon. When you get fish while undoing yr char been hoon very exciting lah. Not sure if my heart can take it or not. I don’t want to take the jump and later all equipment semua simpan coz tak tahu pakai. Now times are bad so have to jimat cermat.
Feedback appreciated.
Tks.
YUp, for fishing, just buy whatever tackles U comfort with. Especially U just begining to learn. Most important is learn to cast it smoothly so that U will like it. No point of buying branded tackle and U can’t cast it.
FYI, I use the lower end tackle also. Most of my tackle are second hand one. So far the most expencive one is the Shimano Torium 20 which I bought recently at S$170.00.(second hand). Others are all below a hundred sing dollar each and I had no problem of it landed big fish.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.Bro SA,
Very sori can’t agreed with ur statment here. Low end tackles as for the rod it is ok to go for Chicken brand or Cap Ayam but what about if the angler going a multiplier reel. Most low budget multiplier are applicable for surf, good e.g PENN Surf Master. Even a experience surf angler had a hard time handling this pig.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
Here I am talking about fishing and not distance casting. So the reel performance is not that important. For those who want to learn casting a multiplyier…the correct tuning on the reel and the right technic of casting it is important. After they master the right thing…shouldn’t have problem on casting any multiplyiers. Whether got cast control or not…whether got bearing or not is not important. Birdnet or not is how U control the reel during casting and did U do a proper cast. If they didn’t do it correctly…birdnet sure to come.
I had cast all sort of mutltiplyier with and without bearing and cast control. No problem at all. Some even without the side cap and still can cast. The biggest reel I had cast is the Penn 113HLW senator. This is a reel that is about the size of a fruit cocktail can U buy from supermarket. No ball bearing and cast control brake but I still can cast up to 80 meter out with big bait on 30lbs line. Its the matter of get used to it.
Penn 200 Surf Master is one of the pioneer casting reel. I have a same size Penn 155L beach master. No problem of casting it. Its is one of my oldest reel and I use it for heavy beach fishing with big bait. Reaching 100 meter out is easily with this reel. Only problem is the retriving is a bit slow.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.
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Originally posted by kevinlw
Bro leadhunters & shoreangler....you mean have to budget about RM400 (max) for a reasonable shore/surf fishing rod & reel set up?
Sorry…I am in Singapore so I don’t know how much a set of surfcasting tackle cost.. Best for U is go to a tackle shop and found out.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.
SA,
I’m have no doubt of above casting the said reels. Myself also have no problem big multiplier like Daiwa LD50, Shimano TLD 15 & Star, Abu 10k, 60/80 meter meters from the shore no problemo. But this not the point, here the topic is about newbies, who just started to know about surf setup, what is applicable for their standard.
Cheers bro.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
Yep, BroOnn’s right. Newbies want to know what kind of setup they need for shore fishing. I think Bro SA got a wee bit technical about the equipment AND Bro SA’s in Xing-Chio-Po.
SO any local sifus have any advise for us newbies? My experience in NZ/CHristchurch some 20 odd years ago (before braids were on heads not reels) is that a stiff rod seem to help handle strong currents. We only had mono back then. Problem with stiff rods is that no sensitivity. I had a moki (a coral fish with 4 wicked looking front teeth) completely swallow my hook n bait coz I couldn’t feel it bite when fishing of a 50-foot cliff with strong surf. It was, btw, the only catch of the day, there were about 6-8 of us.
BTW, saw a picture of a lure retriever in on of the threads. Where can I get one and how much is it?
kevin,
Actually what setup you have now? If talking about spinning setup, most surf rods in our local tackle shop are ringed to suit Spinning reels, cost wise depend what standard budget.
If you looking for a mulrplier’s reel for surf, then the New Abu’s I just put the topic is suitable to do the jod. As mention in that thread that these reels are for Euporean market and was special request to Purefish Malaysia to introduce it to our market as many are looking for open cage type multipliers.
Pls bare in mind that not all multiplier are suitable for surf. This is because of the braking system. Reel that SA mention are for Deep Sea and these dont hv braking system in them thus one must be nery pro or modify the reel by inserting numbers of magnet to slow down the initial spin of the spool if not it will become Maggie Goreng.
If you don’t know much about casting, we will hav a monthly Distance Casting Tourney at Suajana Putra soon. Most of the local KL Surf Caster will participating. Here we can talk surf a bit more detail. Sometime writing can’t tell everything best is real time talking.
For me in Surf the fundamental is important like;
1.Safety
2. Casting technic and distance
3. Rigging
4. bait
5. you tools
Follow these fundamental sequence, then you will enjoy surf fishing. Training casting to most people is cazy (fishing on land) actual this the best venue to polish your casting skill, With the skill you can cast and fish in any condition and terrain whether flat beach, on the rock, confine space etc till having good distance.
Cheers.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
quote:
Originally posted by BroOnn
SA,I’m have no doubt of above casting the said reels. Myself also have no problem big multiplier like Daiwa LD50, Shimano TLD 15 & Star, Abu 10k, 60/80 meter meters from the shore no problemo. But this not the point, here the topic is about newbies, who just started to know about surf setup, what is applicable for their standard.
Cheers bro.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
Yes…newbie…that why I reply to Waraki. A newbie didn’t know how to cast and they also don’t know whether they will continue with the hobby. What happen if after they try and don’t like after buying those expensive tackle…they have to sell at a great loss for sure. So my point is for newbie to just get a cheap set first to try out. If after knowing how to cast n love the hobby, they always can upgrade the tackle to a better one. At that time they will also know what type of brand n model they wanted.
If all casting need those tackle with bearing and brake/ magnet to help, then what happen to those caster at the time when surfcasting reel isn’t make with this modern gear.
It all come down with practice. It just like learning to drive a car. Driving a manual one with be more harder with the clutch release but when they master it, driving a auto one will be easier.
www.shoreangler.8m.com
www.beachangler.8m.com
The only personal shore fishing site in the world that are regularly updated. U will never believe what I had caught until U saw it here.
quote:
Originally posted by BroOnn
kevin,Actually what setup you have now? If talking about spinning setup, most surf rods in our local tackle shop are ringed to suit Spinning reels, cost wise depend what standard budget.
If you looking for a mulrplier’s reel for surf, then the New Abu’s I just put the topic is suitable to do the jod. As mention in that thread that these reels are for Euporean market and was special request to Purefish Malaysia to introduce it to our market as many are looking for open cage type multipliers.
Pls bare in mind that not all multiplier are suitable for surf. This is because of the braking system. Reel that SA mention are for Deep Sea and these dont hv braking system in them thus one must be nery pro or modify the reel by inserting numbers of magnet to slow down the initial spin of the spool if not it will become Maggie Goreng.
If you don’t know much about casting, we will hav a monthly Distance Casting Tourney at Suajana Putra soon. Most of the local KL Surf Caster will participating. Here we can talk surf a bit more detail. Sometime writing can’t tell everything best is real time talking.
For me in Surf the fundamental is important like;
1.Safety
2. Casting technic and distance
3. Rigging
4. bait
5. you toolsFollow these fundamental sequence, then you will enjoy surf fishing. Training casting to most people is cazy (fishing on land) actual this the best venue to polish your casting skill, With the skill you can cast and fish in any condition and terrain whether flat beach, on the rock, confine space etc till having good distance.
Cheers.
KKU
Recovering My Distant
I’m looking for a surf setup that’s not too complicated to use. I’d like to teach my boys (12 and 7) how to fish from shore. Thinking of a surf rod with spinning reel. A open cage multiplier might be a little difficult to handle. I’ve never used one before.
Kurau King - was at your shop yesterday afternoon. saw a surf rod priced about RM78 if i remember correctly. How long is it? any reel (below Rm100) to compliment the rod?