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Change the topic :-)…any scorpion dc user?
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for the price of T3 i rather get a standard scorpion and a scorpion DC the price are almost the same and either way both of these should be far more superior as far as T3 is concerned
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
quote:Far more superior in the sense of what? T3 pack a much stronger drag and the reel is also lighter than both scorpion and scorpion dc. And T3 is very much capable in landing a big fish, I dont see scorpion able to do so with such a weak drag.
Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
for the price of T3 i rather get a standard scorpion and a scorpion DC the price are almost the same and either way both of these should be far more superior as far as T3 is concernedI only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
I believe is more important for what application and your budget. If you are going to spend roughly about 700-800, then scorpion or dc should be your good choice, but both reel seems more suitable for finesse fishing. If you are going for dam or heavy cover area, then you require a reel with stronger drag, better cranking power if you casting bigger lure. So in the end is how you use it and your target fish which should be take into consideration.
I would said both reels are quite different and comparing them would be illogical. And T3 is also much expensive than scorpion and dc.
i still do not understand is the max drag even if it’s just 8lb is even recommended or at all a wise choice, even with 5lb drag my hooks would have been straightened even those single hooks
for starter, i’ve tried both reels… imho, for the money i dun think T3 is even close to being a good buy. T3 uses Zaion which we werent sure of it’s durability in the long term. Apart from tat the only thing is it’s 20g lighter than the scorpion DC. Performance wise they’re bout the same. Both also i do not like in terms of distance and castability.
i have no idea of their cranking power tho. In the end, i think they both are direct challenge to each other, altho i do not like any of them… i will not get any of the reel stated, just telling my opinion base on my experience handling them
edi get myself a chronarch D7 recently n it’s 20g heavier than the scorpion, but i don’t mind hehe
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Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
for the price of T3 i rather get a standard scorpion and a scorpion DC the price are almost the same and either way both of these should be far more superior as far as T3 is concerned
dun la use terms like “far more superior” when comparing reels, especially comparing S & D…each reel would have its strength in its own application…as a start, everyone in this forum knew that you are biased [:D]…if u own decent mixture of shimano/daiwa/abu reels in your arsenal, than I think your comments would carry more weighs, [;)]
let me try field casting KM’s scorpion DC next week and i will bring along my T3 if it is not sold by midnight tonight.
haha for me, no way the T3 gonna be any better than even the cheaper alphas or millionaire… this is not bias at all, the 3D system on it really a big joke to me(well at least i haven’t tried the supposedly more superior Z2020).
in tackletour, ppl still vote for shimano calais DC more than Z2020 almost 2:1. But then as american, their mind is obviously quite ignorant one la… Since they always say DC can cast very far n of all the DC i use can never get distance one(again, never use the ‘claimed’ more superior antares DC). But if their goal is to have DC n 3D as brakes, then i won’t be a fan
btw, for the bias part… wonder why pixy SPR use centrifigual brake ah? kihkihkih…
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
quote:I had not use alphas or millionaire, but does have use baitcaster with magforce Z, certainly the T3 with magforce 3D is able to achieve better distance. I don't know the major contribution to this additional distance will be the 3D system or the T-wing, but the distance is noticeable. And 3D system is wonderful, there are times when magnetic brake and centrifugal is just simply uncastable, but with some slight adjustment, you are able to cast using t3 without getting into birdnest, while it does sacrifice in distance, but still greater than you need to fix your birdnest for every cast.
Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
haha for me, no way the T3 gonna be any better than even the cheaper alphas or millionaire.... this is not bias at all, the 3D system on it really a big joke to me(well at least i haven't tried the supposedly more superior Z2020).in tackletour, ppl still vote for shimano calais DC more than Z2020 almost 2:1. But then as american, their mind is obviously quite ignorant one la… Since they always say DC can cast very far n of all the DC i use can never get distance one(again, never use the ‘claimed’ more superior antares DC). But if their goal is to have DC n 3D as brakes, then i won’t be a fan
btw, for the bias part… wonder why pixy SPR use centrifigual brake ah? kihkihkih…
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
By the way, I think you got the wrong idea that the T3 is fit into some sort finesse style fishing which it certainly not. It’s more suitable in casting bigger lure upto 20g+ and fish larger fish with it’s superior ultimate tournament drag which only found in some high end daiwa reel. I don’t think scorpion dc and t3 are anywhere near having direct competition as they fit for different application. It’s also quite funny you telling people to set drag only on 5 lbs when u can set higher. I don’t know what kind of fish are you targeting or what place you are fishing, there certainly times you need that extra drag or even thumbing on the spool and prevent the fish for getting into the snag. I had lock my drag up to 10 lbs but have not seen the hook being straighten, I think you should buy better hook if is straighten even with 5 lbs drag.
I don’t know about the Zaion part, the material has been use in Daiwa product for quite some years, it just new for the baitcaster. Daiwa Saltiga 2010 already using it, and it is use in many Daiwa Rod reel seat, if there is a problem, I’m sure they already found out by now.
Well, so which is a good buy? I think the application part is important the for the buyer. If you looking for some finesse fishing, maybe can go a head for a scorpion dc, or even the pixy spr. But if you are targeting big fish, you can certianly try t3, a compact body but also very capable in picking up the biggies.
i’ll try to cast a t3 with bigger lures the next time i have a chance to play with one, provided it’s not sold by then
well the topic didnt mentioned at all bout which is a better caster for toman n only use for mean snag loving fish with casting of big lures as primary weapon at all… and so i give my opinion base on which is the reel tat can function more universally with their point being balanced. Price wise, ergonomics, casting, reliability etc. In such case, scorpion is definitely a more flexible reel n thus, superior in my opinion
if the person is looking for a reel to handle big baits n big fish exclusively then i’m sorry to have introduced a wrong opinion. this one i think have to ask Claypot wat he’s looking for
nope i don’t do finesse all the time and there’s time i do thumb my spool, by all means u can do wat u like with the reel but usually 5lb is more than sufficient enough for me as i rarely place 2lb or more for my drag. I’m not very experienced with toman fishing but have fish them quite some time, unless i catching biggies all the time i would like to play my fish a lil with lower drag and just thumb when they rush to snag
we certainly need to fish together one day mate… would be nice to learn a thing or two from a snakehead pro here hehe
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we certainly need to fish together one day mate... would be nice to learn a thing or two from a snakehead pro here hehe
i suppose to fish with M@M@ next week, and also suppose to attend the event lined up by KM next week if it does take place (presumably you will be there). Maybe i can make it into 2-1 for you guys to meet [:D]
ps: i am keeping my T3 for good, not selling liao.
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btw, for the bias part... wonder why pixy SPR use centrifigual brake ah? kihkihkih...
errr, that is for finesse application, not comparing like with like.
if daiwa start introducing reels for normal application in centri brakes, then it’s time for me to use all my current daiwa reels as paper weights
next week means this weekend or next cos next would be tow foo… if this weekend still can go… if my chronarch arrive then so much the better… let’s go test out hehehe altho i edi know the answer lol
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
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Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
next week means this weekend or next cos next would be tow foo... if this weekend still can go... if my chronarch arrive then so much the better... let's go test out hehehe altho i edi know the answer lolI only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
mean this weekend…
see, don’t say i say you are bias hor…LOL
if something is achievable, then it’s not bias but it’s a truth liau hehe, will see this weekend…
T3 vs Scorpion DC vs Scorpion Antares.
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
quote:Hi, knht, I'm only available on Sunday this weekend. Will be very likely to fish in Puchong with boat, see if you will interested.
Originally posted by knhtquote:
we certainly need to fish together one day mate... would be nice to learn a thing or two from a snakehead pro here hehei suppose to fish with M@M@ next week, and also suppose to attend the event lined up by KM next week if it does take place (presumably you will be there). Maybe i can make it into 2-1 for you guys to meet [:D]
ps: i am keeping my T3 for good, not selling liao.
quote:Haha, I'm no expert. Just voicing my opinion. Looking forward to fish with you.
Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
i'll try to cast a t3 with bigger lures the next time i have a chance to play with one, provided it's not sold by thenwell the topic didnt mentioned at all bout which is a better caster for toman n only use for mean snag loving fish with casting of big lures as primary weapon at all… and so i give my opinion base on which is the reel tat can function more universally with their point being balanced. Price wise, ergonomics, casting, reliability etc. In such case, scorpion is definitely a more flexible reel n thus, superior in my opinion
if the person is looking for a reel to handle big baits n big fish exclusively then i’m sorry to have introduced a wrong opinion. this one i think have to ask Claypot wat he’s looking for
nope i don’t do finesse all the time and there’s time i do thumb my spool, by all means u can do wat u like with the reel but usually 5lb is more than sufficient enough for me as i rarely place 2lb or more for my drag. I’m not very experienced with toman fishing but have fish them quite some time, unless i catching biggies all the time i would like to play my fish a lil with lower drag and just thumb when they rush to snag
we certainly need to fish together one day mate… would be nice to learn a thing or two from a snakehead pro here hehe
I only have 13 years of fishing experience, so must beri tunjuk ajar!
Maybe can take a look at exist native custom for our native snakehead fish.
T3 magforce is way ahead of DC+ system.
i think the T3 distance is fair and fool proof system. we tested on 6g-7g shad rap and it handles the lure very well. i m sure bigger lures it will excel.
lets talk abit about the stupid dc+ system. there are 3 settings FL/ Mono/ Braid… after rigorous testings, FL setting is the best coz the DC+ wont stall so badly during the ending.
setting the dc is very simple, in LC mode. other setting dont bother as u will always come short of your intended target. head to head with my Ryoga the DC+ comes short 20ft
i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod
kill the friggin’ netters
magforce 3d might be better that dc but sure lose to c4 dynamite