Scorpion dc or daiwa T3

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Originally posted by wusharox
T3 magforce is way ahead of DC+ system.

i think the T3 distance is fair and fool proof system. we tested on 6g-7g shad rap and it handles the lure very well. i m sure bigger lures it will excel.

lets talk abit about the stupid dc+ system. there are 3 settings FL/ Mono/ Braid… after rigorous testings, FL setting is the best coz the DC+ wont stall so badly during the ending.
setting the dc is very simple, in LC mode. other setting dont bother as u will always come short of your intended target. head to head with my Ryoga the DC+ comes short 20ft

i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod</font id=“red”>

kill the friggin’ netters

one of the best advice i’ve ever heard in this discussion so far. u da man.

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Originally posted by Gerard
magforce 3d might be better that dc but sure lose to c4 dynamite

and what prophecy is this again? [:D]

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quote:
Originally posted by FiR3 TiG3R
quote:
Originally posted by wusharox
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i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod</font id=“red”>

kill the friggin’ netters

one of the best advice i’ve ever heard in this discussion so far. u da man.

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quote:
Originally posted by wusharox
T3 magforce is way ahead of DC+ system.

i think the T3 distance is fair and fool proof system. we tested on 6g-7g shad rap and it handles the lure very well. i m sure bigger lures it will excel.

lets talk abit about the stupid dc+ system. there are 3 settings FL/ Mono/ Braid… after rigorous testings, FL setting is the best coz the DC+ wont stall so badly during the ending.
setting the dc is very simple, in LC mode. other setting dont bother as u will always come short of your intended target. head to head with my Ryoga the DC+ comes short 20ft

i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod

kill the friggin’ netters

Agree by 100%
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quote:
Originally posted by wusharox

i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod

Good advice. go for a better rod. will help u cast well and accurate. pair with great a reel will let u cast effortlessly and less control needed. mix and match to find your own style. bad pairing need time to learn. it is all like wusharox said - feel

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quote:
Originally posted by wusharox
T3 magforce is way ahead of DC+ system.

i think the T3 distance is fair and fool proof system. we tested on 6g-7g shad rap and it handles the lure very well. i m sure bigger lures it will excel.

lets talk abit about the stupid dc+ system. there are 3 settings FL/ Mono/ Braid… after rigorous testings, FL setting is the best coz the DC+ wont stall so badly during the ending.
setting the dc is very simple, in LC mode. other setting dont bother as u will always come short of your intended target. head to head with my Ryoga the DC+ comes short 20ft

Regarding the stupid dc+ system , it works fine to a novice like me [8D]…the system is excellent actually [:D]

Scorpion DC - My Personal Review(First Impression)

Construction Quality
It is a well built reel..feel solid and reliable [:)].. 8/10

Features
The DC system! (Or the “Stupid DC System” as mentioned by many forumers). I’ve been reading a lot of negative feedback regarding the DC System. In fact, it has holding me from buying this reel, until i decided to “arr what the hell, just give it a try”. Well, it turns out the DC System is not that bad after all. Really pleased with the dc system. Backlash has been eliminated by 98%. The DC system really does it work. [:)]… 10/10

Performance
Casting distance - at first i was a bit disappointed with the casting distance achieved. But, then again it didn’t take me long to notice that the only thing i have to do is to adjust the tension knob, loosen it a bit will increase the casting distance significantly. [8D]…although not as far and as smooth as the cq51, but still cast great.- without worrying much about backlash! I Like![:p]
The rated drag is 4.5kg which i think is more than enough to fight with big toman. 9/10

p/s still havent hook-up with any fish to try the crankin power and drag smoothness…but i dont think i have to worry about this judging from my previous experience with curado, xt, and cq. [:)]

Design
Ergonomic and light enough for me to cast all day without getting wrist-pain. [8D] 10/10

Application
1.On-the-boat-backhand-cast is no sweat!
2.Finesse to medium heavy - no problem.
3.Windy open area is no problem at all [;)] 10/10

Price
Worth every penny of my hard earned money. The price is well justified for the features and performance. Made in Japan summore [8D] 10/10

Overall - 9.4 My humble opinion [^]

p/s by the way…love to try out the T3… unable to find anyone using it in KK right now…huhu

-Be very careful, once hooked-up…u will be hooked-up for life-

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yup
i agree with dat
even though
the dc system is stupid
frankly said that intelligence magforce still cannot beat the distance
that make by the stupid dc system
if daiwa so intelligence they should build a good system that can beat
the casting distance so far n beat that damn dc system
this only my little opinion regarding the difference between the stupid dc system n intelligence magforce system
no hard feeling bro

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Even though the dc system is stupid I still like it very much bcoz of the sound n ease of use. Good for noob like me. Hahaha.

Peace.

Peace.

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Well, I have been a silent reader all this while but decided to kacau abit on this thread. In my humble opinion, it all boils down to how one feels when he holds the reel. This is something we may have overlooked often.

My take is that T3 has some new tech thrown in and has a killer new looks that will give it some woahhh’s and woooo’s!! when people sees it. The T guide casts a diff tech to the norms while the open top plate reminds me of how the door of expensive sports car opens up. Thats a definate futuristic look and surely anyone who sees it will say wahlaoehhh!!! However the quest for lightening up the reel makes some questionable decisions in the high usage of plastics gears. A letdown would have to be the choice to use dreadful screws on a reel this refined. Pricing seams high for a reel made in Thailand but I guess its priced to the features…that’s what one would expect to pay for futuristic sports car mar. I havent tried one yet unless some nice samaritan wants to lend me his to play around with hehe.

Scorpion DC is however something which is synonyms with Shimano. Its fans already accepted its plasticky feels. Smoothness, ease of use, light weighted all in a package is like a shimano battlecry. Seams that they have always emphasised the whole package when marketing their reels. I had used Scorp XT and I find it able to cover from ultra light lures to medium light application from fresh water to brackish to rock casting without any problem. Open water tomans is no problem for this reel or any other reels in this class but for Snaggy momma Tomans is a different fishing category altogether lah. Perhaps the greatest advantage it has to T3 is that its made more refined in Japan at a good pricing.

So it very much is to how you feel when you hold each reel, your budget, your application and your style of fishing. My way of making decision is to hold the reel, caress it and manhandle it. If it speaks and seduces you back that u longed and dream of it every night…its time to bring it home ;))

Good Luck on the reel hunt, there is no wrong decisions. It just gives u differing experience.

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for me it is easy n simple
im using both the dc system reel n magforce 3D reel
im not simply judging that system is bad this system is good
as a user we should try it to the limit n then we can say or comment
whether it is good or vice versa coz this is the correct way to get the feel
n xperience from the both production dont simply judge something that
some people look it very low but 4 other it is nice to them
people have the right to choose 4 whatever they like dont
simply make a very bad judgement coz it will gift a bad impression
to the other
live life cool

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Woooo the evergoing shimano vs daiwa discussions/debate..

Funny to see how much fishing reels has evolved lately. From magforce 3d to dc+. All this techy stuff and seem like most people are judging performance of A reel vs B reel on casting distance alone when there’s much more than meets the eye.

Scrape those poison off your mind for a while, be minimalistic and realistic. Both are top notch reels no doubt, quantify your fishing style/presentation and how you think this A or B reel will fit-in your fishing quarry.

Seems like lures have a new competitor.. Fishing reels now catch more fisherman than fishes [:p]

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quote:
Originally posted by wild_boar
Even though the dc system is stupid I still like it very much bcoz of the sound n ease of use. Good for noob like me. Hahaha.

Peace.

Peace.

Same here bro! Hahaha! (minus the sound...[V]...the dc+ system of scorpion dc have no sound at all...super silent [:0])

-newbie here, help needed-

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Originally posted by geno
Woooo the evergoing shimano vs daiwa discussions/debate..

I personally have no issue with Daiwa and to be frank I already add the T3 in my wish list…at least until i know that it is Made in Thailand…owh come onnnnn…it’s not that I underestimate Thais capability to produce a high quality reels…but with that kind of price…~sigh~…hard to justify. Maybe I’m wrong [:p]…so if there any Sabahan here who own the T3…please let me try it [:D]..maybe i will have a second thought? [:p]

quote:
Originally posted by geno Funny to see how much fishing reels has evolved lately. From magforce 3d to dc+. All this techy stuff and seem like most people are judging performance of A reel vs B reel on casting distance alone when there's much more than meets the eye.

Scrape those poison off your mind for a while, be minimalistic and realistic. Both are top notch reels no doubt, quantify your fishing style/presentation and how you think this A or B reel will fit-in your fishing quarry.

Seems like lures have a new competitor.. Fishing reels now catch more fisherman than fishes [:p]

I believe it as an improvement of human civilization [8D]… fishing/angling has been a serious business in the western/japan country since a long time ago…we merely started [:p]..but it’s never too late [^]. And I agree that we must be able to choose the right reel to suit with our fishing style, but in order to do that we must have experience, and experience comes along with trial & mistakes [;)]. By the way… fishing is the only thing I really enjoy after a long week of pressure at work. [8D]

-newbie here, help needed-

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quote:
Originally posted by wusharox
T3 magforce is way ahead of DC+ system.

i would advise u guys not to follow too much internet readings like tackletour etc. that is just to serve as a guideline because it its not indepth enough. baitcasting is about feeling the gist in every cast. every reel is different and every caster has their own style. there are no right and wrong as long as u can master your reel. take this with a pinch of salt and truly understand your reel inside out. therefore the power is in your hands… or rod

kill the friggin’ netters

By the way bro…i think it is much more reliable than some of our forumers’ review here [;)]…but i do agree that it is just as a guideline [:)]

-newbie here, help needed-

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About T3 i think cast furthest occasionally(7.5gram plug), while dc if set at nylon cast just like any reel(7.5gram plug). The conclusion is if ultimate distance is needed, t3 shall do the job well. One more note, if anyone have problem with their dc and willing to part, i can be your savior of the day :slight_smile: please do so with sizable portion of depreciated value la lol

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DC+ G supertuned. Casting time got turbo boost sound.

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Master G and Shifu TJS is always nearby when u need em. Just aim the duck logo in the air with your torch light.

get real life demo wat for go tackle tour…
for vcd version please top up RM20 to their accounts. dvd RM30… kekeke

tin kosong sound more like… maciam the tuned bmx kepit tin. DC + Tin Kosong system = G Cheong Fun

kill the friggin’ netters

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LOLOLOL…!!!

back to basics … always
jes as we’re all individuals … no one reel will perform or feel the same in everyone’s hands

some reels and rods will feel good or ultimate even in some
the same gear might feel like crap to others
inevitable fact: our individual physiology + mentality and/or aptitude differs .. sometimes greatly, sometimes little

try not to be taken in by toys, ie features, bling, etc
toys might help but when the toys spoil or burn out?

to digress:
drivers don’t really need all the new fangled toys in present day cars … feel good factor + a little one upmanship

to wit, i wonder how photogs nowadays truly shoot
VR la, IS la .. dis la dat la … in the “good” ol’ days, a steady hand and basic sunny 16 (correct me if i’m off) understanding/application were de rigeur … in addition to undertanding and applying light(ing)/shadow + aperture principles since the cams back then weren’t as canggih [:p]

apologies for the words … bottom line: get wot works best for YOU</font id=“size6”></font id=“size5”></font id=“teal”> [8D]

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whatever state of the art DC+ or Magforce brake system ka, innovative technology ka, space age material ka, bring it on. I use this reel can outcast you all !!!

[:D][:D][:D]

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yeah weh .. !
dat is one awesome reel … !!! [:p] [:D] [8D]