Thinnest lines

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Originally posted by Mike
" The line tangled by itself while casting. Not sure how it happened. "

gp - I think that people refer to this as " wind knots " - and like wkl2020 says - will happen when your line is too loose on the spool. One wrap does not sit properly, and gets pulled out when you cast.

As for me, I try not to forget to use my fingers to tension the line when I am retrieving every 4 - 5 casts. Just enough tension to allow the line to spool properly. Too much tension, and your line will dig in ( same happens when you play a big fish ) and you then get the opposite.

Make a big cast to hit the other side of the pond, and TWAAAACK ! … everybody is running for shelter across the pond ! [:D]


Yepp… wind knots… hate it… especially with thin braids… it’s a mess and made me lost precious fishing time trying to free the ‘knots’…

Fishing is a way for me to cure my ‘headaches’… unwanted knots will cause headaches… so braids no good… [:p]

Both has advantages over another… really this braid/mono thing depends on preference…

“Out for the thrill, not for the kill!”

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Originally posted by gelama_pisang
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
" The line tangled by itself while casting. Not sure how it happened. "

gp - I think that people refer to this as " wind knots " - and like wkl2020 says - will happen when your line is too loose on the spool. One wrap does not sit properly, and gets pulled out when you cast.

As for me, I try not to forget to use my fingers to tension the line when I am retrieving every 4 - 5 casts. Just enough tension to allow the line to spool properly. Too much tension, and your line will dig in ( same happens when you play a big fish ) and you then get the opposite.

Make a big cast to hit the other side of the pond, and TWAAAACK ! … everybody is running for shelter across the pond ! [:D]


Yepp… wind knots… hate it… especially with thin braids… it’s a mess and made me lost precious fishing time trying to free the ‘knots’…

Fishing is a way for me to cure my ‘headaches’… unwanted knots will cause headaches… so braids no good… [:p]

Both has advantages over another… really this braid/mono thing depends on preference…

“Out for the thrill, not for the kill!”


And hav u wondered why wind knot always only happen during the frenzy…

Can get to ur nerve right bro… hahahahhahahaa

Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you

I say, after all this discussion on braided, I have over the last month or so become a braided fanatic. I changed all my reels to braided already, & even bought a 50Lb braided as leader for my 1st Fish Valley visit last Friday (didn’t catch anything on it [V]). Yes, braided seems to be the way to go. I love the line. But still keep a 25lb mono handy for certain leader purposes.

Instead of using braids as leaders - very highly visible, try using adequately sized mono instead. They are less visible - and some people even go to the extent of using expensive fluorocarbon as leaders because it is supposed to be the least visible.

Depending on what you want to target - normally 20 - 30 lb leader is more than sufficient.[:)]

quote:
Originally posted by Tan Jiin Sheng
quote:
Originally posted by gelama_pisang
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
" The line tangled by itself while casting. Not sure how it happened. "

gp - I think that people refer to this as " wind knots " - and like wkl2020 says - will happen when your line is too loose on the spool. One wrap does not sit properly, and gets pulled out when you cast.

As for me, I try not to forget to use my fingers to tension the line when I am retrieving every 4 - 5 casts. Just enough tension to allow the line to spool properly. Too much tension, and your line will dig in ( same happens when you play a big fish ) and you then get the opposite.

Make a big cast to hit the other side of the pond, and TWAAAACK ! … everybody is running for shelter across the pond ! [:D]


Yepp… wind knots… hate it… especially with thin braids… it’s a mess and made me lost precious fishing time trying to free the ‘knots’…

Fishing is a way for me to cure my ‘headaches’… unwanted knots will cause headaches… so braids no good… [:p]

Both has advantages over another… really this braid/mono thing depends on preference…

“Out for the thrill, not for the kill!”


And hav u wondered why wind knot always only happen during the frenzy…

Can get to ur nerve right bro… hahahahhahahaa

Novice angler here, any constructive advices greatly appreciated. Thank you


Me sometimes clumsylah… no frenzy oso can happen wan… hehe…

“Out for the thrill, not for the kill!”

quote:
Originally posted by nyamaoan

oh ya… and any more reaplies to my earlier question… what is the thinnest braided line u all know of?


Bro nyamaoan,
Very late, but better than never [:D]

Recently compiled the thickness of some of the more popular brands of braided line in malaysia market. Source : manufacturers’ website and online shops etc

Diameter in mm. Some brands sell odd poundage, eg 14lbs. Classify these odd sizes into the nearest common poundage for easy comparison. Also poundage < 6lbs and > 80lbs not compiled

Thanks for the chart - saves us a lot of time trying to do it on our own.

Waiting for the Sufix 832 to hit the shops this week. Hope that it comes at an affordable price ! [:p]

go kiasu…

6-10lb mono 15lb braid or lower

12lb mono 20lb braid

15-20 mono use 30lb braid or higher

set your drag as usual one fourth or half(if you like)

if you use mono…uni to uni or bimini on both ends then make a loop t loop

if you use braid to mono use bimini on mono then albright…
if you can tie mid knot or FG so much better…

you can never enjoy fishing with the best of both lines and the fluorocarbon..

use it…enjoy it…have fun…

go kiasu…

6-10lb mono 15lb braid or lower

12lb mono 20lb braid

15-20 mono use 30lb braid or higher

set your drag as usual one fourth or half(if you like)

if you use mono…uni to uni or bimini on both ends then make a loop t loop

if you use braid to mono use bimini on mono then albright…
if you can tie mid knot or FG so much better…

you can never enjoy fishing with the best of both lines and the fluorocarbon..

use it…enjoy it…have fun…

Weng, that’s awesome work! Definitely a good source for quick reference!

Also, reminds me of the time when I came up with my own chart to compare reels, back when I attempted to purchase one from the higher end range (it never happened though [:(]) My chart was deleted when my attempt to purchase failed…

Glad that you guys like it. I wish I can list down the indicative price for these lines too. Anybody have access to the retail prices ?

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Originally posted by weng
quote:
Originally posted by nyamaoan

oh ya… and any more reaplies to my earlier question… what is the thinnest braided line u all know of?


Bro nyamaoan,
Very late, but better than never [:D]

Recently compiled the thickness of some of the more popular brands of braided line in malaysia market. Source : manufacturers’ website and online shops etc

Diameter in mm. Some brands sell odd poundage, eg 14lbs. Classify these odd sizes into the nearest common poundage for easy comparison. Also poundage < 6lbs and > 80lbs not compiled


Haha. I don’t even remember asking the question.
But i’ve already guessed for quite some time that Sufix braids are the thinnest in diameter. Your chart proves that.
Thanks.

Haha. Sufix 25lb braid is equivalent in diameter to regular fireline 8lb!

yeah weh … me mate’s 20lb sufix is almost half the diameter of my 20lb spiderwire stealth camo …!

anyone has any experience with toray lines?
thinking of getting the 10lb/PE1 … but the cost … [xx(]

Was thinking of spooling new lines so I headed down to the tackle shop to look for the thinner lines like Stren Sonic and Sufix 832. I was thinking getting a thinner line so that I can get all the distance

When I touch the Stren Sonic, rated at 0.23mm/30lb, the feel tells me the diameter cannot be so thin. So I compared it with the 30lb powerpro which is 0.28mm, and both feels the same in thickness !

And for Sufix, to my surprised, the 30lb line is 0.29mm as printed on the box ! Not 0.20mm !

Did not make the purchase and decided to go home and find out more. After googling, Sufix website has USA site and International site. The USA site rate their 30lb line at 0.29mm. While the International site rate the 30lb line at 0.20mm. Do they make 2 different diameter of lines with the same brand ? Or do they rate differently for marketing purpose ?

As for Sonic Stren, after googling, the website below show a comparison of some of the braided line brands and measure the actual diameter. Stren Sonic’s 30lb/0.23mm line is actually with a diameter of 0.312mm. And the powerpro 30lb/0.28mm actually is 0.325mm thick. They measured 14 brands of braided lines and guess what ? None of the brands are truthful as to their diameters (all thicker than stated)

http://tacticalbassin.com/braid/

Guess it is all because of marketing ?


“A good angler needs the ability to foretell the best location to fish, the best time to fish, the best bait, and the best technic. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why there is no hook-up”

What about fluorocarbon lines? I noticed that fluorocarbon remains very unpopular in M’sia, save for use as leader.

My fishing site @ http://thefishingboy.blog138.fc2.com

the new PowerPro Depth Hunter seems to attract good comments from online forum, wonder any kaki can share their view after using this line? Can someone share if there is any different in specs between the multi-coloured line and normal powerpro line?

Also, how about the comments on YGK X4 and X8 line?

Here’s my 2cents.

I don’t have a preference for braid or mono. Still using both for different applications. For ponds/lake float fishing with minimal snags, use mono. For river/swamps with heavy snags use braid. Also depends on reel preference. Baitcasting reels is advisable to use braid while Spinning reels is advisable to use mono. Spinning reels actually need the coiling effect from mono to spring out from spool onto the guides. While Baitcasters very dependent on smooth line minimal friction on guides to fly out from spool.

I’ve tried braid on spin-reel & I don’t like it. Hard to manage. Need to use mono backing so it doesn’t slip, when spooling-in need to make it very tight so line don’t dig in. After 1 session, need to un-spool & re-spool to tighten lines.

I live for the Hunt!

no problem with braid on BC or spinning
started off with braid on spinning … no slippage despite no mono backing nor coming loose
bad line lay or loose line generally due to reeling in of slack line

tacked masking tape onto first few turns of line on BC spool
applied even pressure during spooling of remainder … so far, so good
line digging in is due to overrun

thinner braid is somehow … “nicer” to use
but don’t beehoon kaw kaw … otherwise … T_T