Kerapu,
If you wantt to go to haipro,follow kesas highway,go straight all the way until u reach petronas station on your lefthandside(its along the same road),go further up until u reach a roundabout,make a U-turn,go just a little bit further up,about 1 km,and ull reach the first junction(going to pandamaran),take that junction ie turn left,up ahead ull a traffic light and and indian temple,u just go straight and ull see haipro signboard,it`s somewhere there.
Live bait is certainly the best to use. Observe those who up 7~8 fishes, see if they use bottom, how many hours have they gone thru, what type of fish has been landed? Weather? hot spot? Configuration? Ultimately, your luck..especially true at pay pond.
Note that the type of snapper released in these pay pond has a habitat of going in group. You will notice when a spot get strike, it is likely that spot will continue. It is also true at open sea. So, maybe you want to shift your place nearer to that spot. Of course, not standing side-by-side like some idiot did. Also, if there is no movement after 20 minutes, retrieve and rethrow, or slow retrieve using your finger.
But I guess luck is still the ultimate factor in pay pond. There is no reason to “sewa kerusi”, no movement in 3 hours, convince yourself it’s time to go home.
sabiki, thanks pal! I heard HiPro release more Grouper compare to S.Lion. Personally I am more to bottom like Baracuda, some time I do float too, especially during morning session. My lead is about 4 meters, normally I throw the float close to water pump area. Result? I won’t say it is better than bottom, but sometimes you just have to change technique.
any advise from the regular angler?? which one is more productive? Hi-Pro or Sealion? what are the best baits to use for different type of fish in these 2 places?
quote:Originally posted by RohuSlayer any advise from the regular angler?? which one is more productive? Hi-Pro or Sealion? what are the best baits to use for different type of fish in these 2 places?
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I can not guarantee you which pond have best catches. but can give you some advice.
do not go to either pond during weekend. because the place will be packed like hell. and normall your catch will not be so good.
to Sea Lion, during week days they open at 3:00 pm so you want to be there before 2:30. get yourself ready and normally the actions begins at the first 15-30 minutes. sometimes if you are lucky you can get 3-5 snappers during that 30 minutes. to hi-pro, it is difficult to say when, but a good parameter is when you enter the pond, you can see the keep nets in the pond where they store the fishes and waiting to be released into the pond, and the edge of the keep net is the spot you should not miss, most of the big kerapu were caught here. but the problem is I can assure you that spot is always occupied, 24/7.
the best bait? really it depends. live baits tend to get more fishes. but i once got 5 kerapu using float and kempun fillet. so try both. sometimes, dead prawn meat also works.
quote:Originally posted by RohuSlayer any advise from the regular angler?? which one is more productive? Hi-Pro or Sealion? what are the best baits to use for different type of fish in these 2 places?
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I can not guarantee you which pond have best catches. but can give you some advice.
do not go to either pond during weekend. because the place will be packed like hell. and normall your catch will not be so good.
to Sea Lion, during week days they open at 3:00 pm so you want to be there before 2:30. get yourself ready and normally the actions begins at the first 15-30 minutes. sometimes if you are lucky you can get 3-5 snappers during that 30 minutes. to hi-pro, it is difficult to say when, but a good parameter is when you enter the pond, you can see the keep nets in the pond where they store the fishes and waiting to be released into the pond, and the edge of the keep net is the spot you should not miss, most of the big kerapu were caught here. but the problem is I can assure you that spot is always occupied, 24/7.
the best bait? really it depends. live baits tend to get more fishes. but i once got 5 kerapu using float and kempun fillet. so try both. sometimes, dead prawn meat also works.
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Pocketfreak,
Hi, i’ve been following this thread everyday but just didn’t wrote anything cause i’m still new to salt water paypond. Well i went to Sealion pond number 2 as they now have new management. I’ve seen on the board for Jackpot that the groupers are about 5.7 kg’s heaviest and also the “Ang chor”(jenahak) about 3.5kg’s. Well i arrived there at about 7.30 and waited for my sifu, went in and surveyed the area while waiting. Walked around the pond and saw very good harvest from people there.
On average there are about 20 anglers there that time and i can see most of the people got jenahak about 1.8kg’s and above. But i don’t think it reach the 3kg mark. So while i’m surveying i saw 3 fish landed from 7.30pm to about 7.50pm. 20 minutes duration and 3 fish landed. So i said to myself “well this pond is well stocked with fish”. started fishing at 8.20pm.
My setup was really really wrong.
should have start with a heavy setup cause i started with med action berkley hotrod and 10lb braided. Well for the fist 45 minutes i got nothing. Using belanak about 2.5 inches as bait. No bites at all but then 2 belanak lost and still not sure what is the reason. The 3rd belanak got lost while hooking it and it fell into the pond.
Got so frustrated and used my ultimate bait. Lampan that i bought before i went there. My sifu told me that it can’t be used cause we’re fishing in saltwater and not fresh water and lampan is freshwater fish. I just told him nevermind la. no harm giving it a try. Hooked the lampan near the tail, let the fella taste the water abit and it was swimming very vigourously and rough. So i said to myself well since this fella is so active it should bring back something good.
I made my cast slightly over the middle and retrieved a little. Then i can see my rod shaking immediately cause i the lampan is really struggling to be free. not even 30 seconds and my reel made a loud scream and i hold the rod up and control. To my amusement i don’t know what is in the other end of the line that took my bait but then the line keep coming out and i couldn’t even have the chance to reel in and while the line is going out it BURST!! just like that. I have no idea what fish was that or maybe it hit the pontoon. Cause i can see the fish is heading towards that way.
Immidiate change to my setup to a 30lb braided and a heavier rod. But then luck was not on my side. Right until 11.30 no takers as the pond slowed down from9.30 pm onwards. No hook ups from 10pm until i left the pond. Could it be that the fishes there are less active at night but then at that time the moon is almost full and its up in the sky
Does the moon have any effect of sea fishes. Cause i’ve read somewhere that some say that the fish feeds more during full moon and some says that during full moon the fish won’t feed. So i’m actually confused here.
“The best feeling is when the fish is nibbling till you see the rod curves but not while waiting for it to nibble”
Based on your posting, assume that your drag tension is very much loosen, hence when the fish bite-n-run, your rod didn’t fall into the pond but gave you a loud scream. You then immediately hold up your rod and attempt to reel back the fish…friend, did you forget to tigthen your drag? Also, 10lbs braid is almost impossible to drive back a 1.8kg salt water fish at pay pond, you don’t have the luxury to drive the fish.
Couldn’t help smiling after reading yr post. That brought back some memories. Anyway, here’s my 2 cents worth:
Those days at saltwater payponds, they actually sell lampans as bait. And yes, they are fresh water fish but somehow they adapted themselves well in saltwater and managed to breed too. So much so, that some of these ponds were infested with lampans which were a nuisance(like from those that escaped from Ice as well, haha!). Those fishing with live prawns as bait were frustrated as their prawns almost all the time got eaten by the lampans.
The trick to keep your prawn alive in these waters is to keep your bait(prawn) moving all the time. Never cast and rest your rod, even to just light up for a short puff. It will cost you your bait.
And as for my setup, I used to fish at sealion with 12-15lbs mono with a 25-30lb leader. Just remember to ensure your drag is smooth. Win most of the time, lost a few but not because of the line poundage but strike too early.
Oh one more thing, here’s another tip, a lot of people thought that if you use a large prawn as bait, you get a bigger fish and it has never been proven. In fact, I tend to use those smaller to medium size ones. Here you’ll have to match you hook to yr bait else you’ll probably kill yr bait before it even hits the water. This is also the reason why I use mono, cast small prawns on mono gives me much more distance. Very successful with smaller bait than big bait (for pond fishing anyway).
Lastly, don’t go there during weekends. Try weekdays (mornings & evenings)as there are less people. Most found fishing during weekdays are always fishing by the sangkar and you’ll get the entire pond to yrself.
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quote:Originally posted by kerapu Based on your posting, assume that your drag tension is very much loosen, hence when the fish bite-n-run, your rod didn't fall into the pond but gave you a loud scream. You then immediately hold up your rod and attempt to reel back the fish...friend, did you forget to tigthen your drag? Also, 10lbs braid is almost impossible to drive back a 1.8kg salt water fish at pay pond, you don't have the luxury to drive the fish.
Kerapu,
well for that time i didn’t release my bail arm so i set the drag loose but not until 1 small pull and the line comes out a km. Its loose and especially when i got the strike i tightened the drag to steer the fish but unfortunately i think the drag is still a lil loose and that made me loose the fish.
“The best feeling is when the fish is nibbling till you see the rod curves but not while waiting for it to nibble”
Couldn’t help smiling after reading yr post. That brought back some memories. Anyway, here’s my 2 cents worth:
Those days at saltwater payponds, they actually sell lampans as bait. And yes, they are fresh water fish but somehow they adapted themselves well in saltwater and managed to breed too. So much so, that some of these ponds were infested with lampans which were a nuisance(like from those that escaped from Ice as well, haha!). Those fishing with live prawns as bait were frustrated as their prawns almost all the time got eaten by the lampans.
The trick to keep your prawn alive in these waters is to keep your bait(prawn) moving all the time. Never cast and rest your rod, even to just light up for a short puff. It will cost you your bait.
And as for my setup, I used to fish at sealion with 12-15lbs mono with a 25-30lb leader. Just remember to ensure your drag is smooth. Win most of the time, lost a few but not because of the line poundage but strike too early.
Oh one more thing, here’s another tip, a lot of people thought that if you use a large prawn as bait, you get a bigger fish and it has never been proven. In fact, I tend to use those smaller to medium size ones. Here you’ll have to match you hook to yr bait else you’ll probably kill yr bait before it even hits the water. This is also the reason why I use mono, cast small prawns on mono gives me much more distance. Very successful with smaller bait than big bait (for pond fishing anyway).
Lastly, don’t go there during weekends. Try weekdays (mornings & evenings)as there are less people. Most found fishing during weekdays are always fishing by the sangkar and you’ll get the entire pond to yrself.
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Starfish,
Good to hear that you read my post and have a smile. Well the fishing trip was fun although line burst. Well i don’t really have anyone teaching me how to fish. Well my sifu only teach me where to cast, where to target, the length of the leader, the baits to hook on the last dorsal fin and dont effect the backbone of the fish. Other than that is plain on my own experience. Well the reason why i go light is because in Kampung Desa aman i use 10lb and still land a siakap. So i thought the same. Give the fish a fighting chance to live la. But then the chair rental was expensive cause i didn’t get any fish there. But one thing i learn is never to light in sea lion. Cause the fish that they put in these days are not like the previous management. Small and little. At least this time they put in a lot and eventually i can even see the fishes in the tanks and their sizes.
Still have the itch for siakap cause the siakap meat is damn good and fleshy. Yum Yum.
“The best feeling is when the fish is nibbling till you see the rod curves but not while waiting for it to nibble”
Me too, I love eating siakaps. Especially steam with lots of ginger…ahhhh nice! Of course kerapu better tasting and meat texture but so far only caught 1 at payponds many moons ago.
I’m learning too while reading all the threads in this forum. But I guess reading is one thing, practising is more fun and this is how we learn (trial & error, even with a sifu standing besides me) and gain experience.
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Me too, I love eating siakaps. Especially steam with lots of ginger…ahhhh nice! Of course kerapu better tasting and meat texture but so far only caught 1 at payponds many moons ago.
I’m learning too while reading all the threads in this forum. But I guess reading is one thing, practising is more fun and this is how we learn (trial & error, even with a sifu standing besides me) and gain experience.
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Hey starfish.
Love that steamed siakap with lots of ginger. “Cheng Ching” the simplest matter to cook the fish yet brings the taste from the fish.
Hey have you been to kampung Desa Aman? Well i’m planning to take a day off to fish on the weekday to fish for siakap. Maybe planning to go in the night. But what i observed is that the fishes are more active during the period from 9am to about 11am. Can’t miss that 2 hour slot cause i’ve seen people and almost 95% people getting hookup. But if want big fishes and kerapu then have to go sea lion.
Still haven’t catch any grouper yet. Maybe kerapu can give us some tips on how to catch them. Maybe Pocketfreak too can give some tips cause he’ve landed 5 before in paypond. Well hope all this will give us and educate us to catch more fishes.
“The best feeling is when the fish is nibbling till you see the rod curves but not while waiting for it to nibble”
quote:Originally posted by kerapu Hohoho...I certainly very interested to hear from Pocketfreak, how he manage to land 5 kerapu at a row with kempung. [:D]
Kerapu,
why not while waiting for pocketfreak, cause he MIA today la. No reply from him also. Can you explain how to get those groupers. I only know that cast near the pontoon area’s where there is shelter for them but then the area is always full of people and if you really cast to the pontoon. After the grouper get takes your bait if will go straight for the shelter. Then i guess the line will snap if it goes round the pontoon stilts.
“The best feeling is when the fish is nibbling till you see the rod curves but not while waiting for it to nibble”